Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

Yes Rutte saw his own backside when questioned on the capability of the European Ballistic Missile sheild known as Operation Atlantic Sentry.
European have nothing to fear as far as Iranian missile are concerned...., don't know how much weightage one shall give to intuitions ....my intuition is Iran is on the verge of caving in...she has used all of her trump cards and her deck is nearly empty.
 
Yes Rutte saw his own backside when questioned on the capability of the European Ballistic Missile sheild known as Operation Atlantic Sentry.

I'm 100% sure Rutte is coping hard at home somewhere.

That quote, often attributed to Gen. Patton but unverifiable, can be used in certain cases, such as this one, in which Europeans fought the wrong enemy during the Cold War. Should have kept the Soviets closer. [I could be wrong, though.]
 
it is very clear... as Munir said any one who has sympathy for iran can go there....

seems like they have already discounted Shia sentiments.

Pakistan is firmly in the Saudi camp...
 
Saudi FDI, new bilateral treaty for more intake of Pakistanis?

more intake ?

it doesnt work that way...it is usually skill based unless it is a unskilled base category which is increasingly being diminished
 
So why is Iran siding with slaves of Zionists and our biggest enemies? Does that give Pakistan the permission to act against Iran cuz for Pakistan it’s either you stand with Hindutvas or against Hindutvas? Our official enemy is only Hindutva India.
World politics is more complex than just “either you stand with X or against X”.
All very valid points.

And the background historical context being provided is indeed sound and relevant.

But what is the final calculus here?

Swapping an untrustworthy regime of mullahs for a genocidal and BLA facilitating regime (or splintered mini-states) of zionists. Present Indian influence in Iran is nowhere near the level it would be if the mullahs collapse.

Additional comment regarding splintering of Iran - we can't control another Syria on our western border wherein not one of the warring factions will be friendly or even ambivalent towards us. India, USA and Israel will go to town in this scenario.
 
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Some people feel, you're either with Iran (as cannon fodder) or you're against Iran.

Pakistan is not responsible for iran's actions. Pakistanis need to understand, continuous strikes on Arabs' infrastructure no matter what and blockade of Hormuz acting all macho and holding the whole world hostage was never a wise policy. Eventually people will start feeling the consequences of these iranian actions, and all the countries who said US and Israel waged an illegal war would change their opinion.

Never in future the world would allow iran to create a situation like this again.

So only iran and iran itself is responsible and will be responsible, every country including Pakistan has the right to work for their interests.

And to all those emotional Muslims (specially Pakistanis) who think iran has taught israel a lesson, sure, keep dreaming about it. The tiny zionist state kills any leader when it wants to, drops bombs anywhere when it wants to, fights wars on any front when it wants to. Taught them a lesson my foot, instead these idiots like always have brought the Muslim world at edge of infighting and more Muslim killings.

How many israeli leaders killed vs iranians and others?
How many zionist citizens killed vs iranians and others?

Simple comparison should be enough to confirm who is a loser in this situation.

As if Iran is somehow the good.

They were happy to take control of Iraq. Qasim Sulemani threatened war on Pakistan.

Three. Don't forget once upon a time Afghanistan's ballistic missile capability.

Thank you, I stand corrected and updated.
 
Im hearing same noise for Qatari contacts. Qatar economy is crippled as a result of all this.
Solution is dont allow the bases in your country to be used to bomb Iran. You will be an immediate target. Crippling is just the start. If Trump follows through tonight with his threats - Qatar will cease to exist...
 
The point I was making is that Iran's retaliatory strikes have not dented Israeli attacks to date.


because they dont have a capable manned interceptor force...

the invested in ballistic offensive strategy
 
"israel's strikes have not dented iranian retaliatory attacks to date "

Seriously ...

I am not a big fan of iran, never was, but even I understand the Zionist ultimate goal. They do not attack you to destroy your infra or whatever puny capabilities you have.

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And why they so badly want Arabs to join this war, freedom from blame and bad repu to achieve millions target. Gaza, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan .. they have done it before.
 
European have nothing to fear as far as Iranian missile are concerned...., don't know how much weightage one shall give to intuitions ....my intuition is Iran is on the verge of caving in...she has used all of her trump cards and her deck is nearly empty.
My intuition was sound , war is over.
 
My intuition was sound , war is over.

You sure about that?
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The package includes:-
  • three (3) GBU-39/B inert practice bombs
  • one thousand five hundred (1,500) GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs Increment I
  • nine hundred (900) KMU-556 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) guidance sets
  • three hundred (300) KMU-557 JDAM guidance sets
  • GBU-39 tactical training rounds
  • FMU-139 fuze systems
  • DSU-42
  • DSU-40 laser-illuminated target detectors
  • ground support system for Link 16- AN/PYQ-10 Simple Key Loaders
  • KG-250 Link Encryptors
  • precision navigation
  • Joint Mission Planning System with unique planning components and software
  • aircraft maintenance support equipment
 
You sure about that?
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The package includes:-
  • three (3) GBU-39/B inert practice bombs
  • one thousand five hundred (1,500) GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs Increment I
  • nine hundred (900) KMU-556 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) guidance sets
  • three hundred (300) KMU-557 JDAM guidance sets
  • GBU-39 tactical training rounds
  • FMU-139 fuze systems
  • DSU-42
  • DSU-40 laser-illuminated target detectors
  • ground support system for Link 16- AN/PYQ-10 Simple Key Loaders
  • KG-250 Link Encryptors
  • precision navigation
  • Joint Mission Planning System with unique planning components and software
  • aircraft maintenance support equipment
What's the point of continuing the war and wasting your resources when all of your demands have been accepted ? ....no nukes , caps on missiles and no support to proxies...on top of that pottery house rules are not applicable.
 
What's the point of continuing the war and wasting your resources when all of your demands have been accepted ? ....no nukes , caps on missiles and no support to proxies...on top of that pottery house rules are not applicable.
Don't ask me, ask the Orange man and his demented adopted son in Tel Aviv.
 

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