Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Kyussis said:
The U.S is not "coexisting" with China. The U.S is actively planning on waging war on China because they can't compete with China economically. The only reason that they haven't started war on China as of yet is because China is too strong. That is why They went after Venezuela and Iran was to cut off China from their main energy suppliers to weaken china.
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That's exactly what coexistence means.
Coexistence does not mean friendship or an alliance. It means to set your differences aside and conduct business as two normal states without obvious animosity and wars. And coexistence happens when both sides are strong enough to cause the other pain and misery.

So, what you said is in fact the very proof of the fact that China and the US have learned to coexist.
 
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FUB said:
Complete BS. He is manipulating the markets and buying time.
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His tactic is working well on this forum. People are already talking about "post war" when this war has not even ended yet.
 
Immortals said:
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The rhetoric from the Iranian negotiating position is already going down from what was previously stated 48 hours ago. Before it was withdrawal from all bases, now its just a guarantee of future attack and compensation, as a starting point. Realistically, Iran will probably have to hand over enriched uranium, end support for proxies and missile program and in the end sanctions will be lifted. Not a total "Venezuela situation" but something along those lines. I think fundamentally Iran has less leverage than Israel and U.S. have over it. We'll see how things develop, but I don't think neither Israel nor the IRGC will be happy with such an outcome.
 
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15 POINT AGREEMENT BETWEEN IRAN AND US - allegedly
 
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I just don't get why Iran is unable to protect its own scientists and Government officials within its own borders?

Where is the Iranian intelligence service?
 
Cicero said:
The rhetoric from the Iranian negotiating position is already going down from what was previously stated 48 hours ago. Before it was withdrawal from all bases, now its just a guarantee of future attack and compensation, as a starting point. Realistically, Iran will probably have to hand over enriched uranium, end support for proxies and missile program and in the end sanctions will be lifted. Not a total "Venezuela situation" but something along those lines. I think fundamentally Iran has less leverage than Israel and U.S. have over it. We'll see how things develop, but I don't think neither Israel nor the IRGC will be happy with such an outcome.
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If it's true, regime change will be planned for the next year.
 
ShapurII said:
You cannot build a wall around Iran and stop trading with your neighbors.
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Didn't say we should.
ShapurII said:
Who else do you want to trade with? Turkey? It's a NATO member. Republic of Azerbaijan? It hosts Israel instead of the US (even worse). Afghanistan? Turkmenistan? Pakistan? Seriously, who is left? None of these countries have strategic alliance with us. You simply cannot say that we should stop doing business with all of our neighbors.
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I'm saying Iran should reevaluate it's trade with UAE which, despite being a major trading partner with Iran, claims Iranian territory and participated in a war against Iran. Yes we should expand trade with the nations you listed instead.
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And it is the Persian Gulf. Not just "gulf". And sure, you're right. We're just sharing our opinions. We aren't the ones who make the decisions.
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I used lower case for gulf intentionally. The Persian Gulf is still a gulf.
 
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