Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Saaar pljj don do it sr, modi ki kasam

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Hi,

Well---the belief is that we all will be obliterated and our nations destroyed. Whomsoever survived will be living in terrible conditions and then a saviour will arrive and destroy the aggressor---.

So---this self annihilating belief is a dominant part of the belief---.

This is a strange belief where you create scenarios to bring death and destruction to your very own to claim the coming of the Messiah---.

Seriously?
Just run with anything?
There is NO and I mean NO core belief in Islam that propels the faithful for a messianic thousand year rule... unlike Jewish prayer... the aim for the third temple, restart the sacrifice at the alter... or dispensationalism, return of the Messiah, rapture, Armageddon, Anti Christ are to multiple denominations as core beliefs interpreted directly from the scriptures.
Nothing, NOTHING parallel exists in Islam... the whole field of escathology is nascent ans formed primarily around Ahadith that are NOT theological in their nature or context, nor are Muslims motivated to pray either for the return of Christ or act to usher in the age as to prepare the grounds. It is fundamentally a scholarly exercise in literature. For some, a parallel understanding on "our side" interpretation while the other two remain the instigators and primary movers. They moved in the region for this sole declared purpose!

 

[Yasser76]

Seriously?
Just run with anything?
There is NO and I mean NO core belief in Islam that propels the faithful for a messianic thousand year rule... unlike Jewish prayer... the aim for the third temple, restart the sacrifice at the alter... or dispensationalism, return of the Messiah, rapture, Armageddon, Anti Christ are to multiple denominations as core beliefs interpreted directly from the scriptures.
Nothing, NOTHING parallel exists in Islam... the whole field of escathology is nascent ans formed primarily around Ahadith that are NOT theological in their nature or context, nor are Muslims motivated to pray either for the return of Christ or act to usher in the age as to prepare the grounds. It is fundamentally a scholarly exercise in literature. For some, a parallel understanding on "our side" interpretation while the other two remain the instigators and primary movers. They moved in the region for this sole declared purpose!

Check out thread title yaar.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Check out thread title yaar.

Then these tangents should kick the curb sooner before some start giving things deeper meaning.

That would be misleading all. I hate to delve into someone's side hustle!

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

they should fight against an invading army you absolute .... .or are u going to blame lebanes for actions of idf too like you did to gazans

And, why did Israel started "invading" Lebanon again?

What authority does a foreign funded, trained and armed terrorist group in Lebanon have launching a war on Iranian orders without any explicit Lebanese Government approval?

01/03/2026: Hezbollah backs Iran, Lebanon warned not to enter conflict: The Arab Weekly

02/03/2026: Lebanese PM bans Hezbollah’s military activities after attack on Israel: Al-Jazeera

02/03/2026: Israel strikes Lebanon after Hezbollah rocket fire as Iran conflict widens: BBC

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Seriously . Stopping a greater Israel wants to gobble up your country is fighting for Iran

What "gobbling" was going on, on the 28 February 2026 and 1 March 2026?

 

[hasssanali8998]

And, why did Israel started "invading" Lebanon again?

What authority does a foreign funded, trained and armed terrorist group in Lebanon have launching a war on Iranian orders without any explicit Lebanese Government approval?

01/03/2026: Hezbollah backs Iran, Lebanon warned not to enter conflict: The Arab Weekly

02/03/2026: Lebanese PM bans Hezbollah’s military activities after attack on Israel: Al-Jazeera

02/03/2026: Israel strikes Lebanon after Hezbollah rocket fire as Iran conflict widens: BBC

lmao

u actully did it , you blamed the victim

so looks like u also missed the continuous strikes on lebanon before the iran war even began , and after a ceasefire too

any explicit Lebanese Government approval

this means nothing

What authority does a foreign funded, trained and armed terrorist group in Lebanon have launching a war on Iranian orders without any explicit Lebanese Government approval?

do you say the same about kashmir freedom fighters , hamas and so on

And, why did Israel started "invading" Lebanon again?

becaseu it is israel
they do what they want


geo bhai geo

 

[Starlord]

lmao

u actully did it , you blamed the victim

so looks like u also missed the continuous strikes on lebanon before the iran war even began , and after a ceasefire too

this means nothing



do you say the same about kashmir freedom fighters , hamas and so on


becaseu it is israel
they do what they want


geo bhai geo

Putting members like that in your ignore list will save a lot of effort and energy... Trust me!!! some people are hopeless, they are on some sort of spectrum.

 

[PakFactor]

Hi,

And during the Iraq Iran war of the 80's---the iraqis would ask---what the fck is wrong with the pakistanis. Why they fighting to Iran.

The would claim that this war was not Jihad---it was just a real estate war---.

They were right when they called it a real estate war; the conflict's roots trace back to the Shatt al‑Arab waterway dispute between Iran and Iraq, along with some border zones and marshlands. It was further bastardized by the GCC Arab's to make it a Sunni and Shia issue, and further cemented it as an Arab versus Persian issue, along with the goal of stopping the spread of the Ayatollah Revolution.

In another post, you mentioned Iran was acquiring arms from Israel. I would argue that any state fighting for its very survival would seek arms from any source, regardless of whether the aligning policies match the regime's intent or not. It's at that point that nothing matters more than having a viable state.

As for our position as Pakistani's, the further away Pakistan is from the GCC, and its shanagians and kutt kani, the better. Nothing good has ever come from that region, and never will.

The Arab's maintain a duality policy; their lips betray their actual thoughts, their actions betray their statement, and their hearts contradict their words in their entirety. (@RescueRanger)

It would be best to just quietly walk away as the Turks did.

 

[hasssanali8998]

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

... this means nothing

So, in your opinion, foreign funded Hezbollah has more authority over the Lebanese Government?

... do you say the same about kashmir freedom fighters , hamas and so on...

Is Lebanon a disputed territory?

... becaseu it is israel
they do what they want ...

Then don't give them more excuses to destroy their country.

Is the Lebanese people not aware of the strengths and weaknesses of their country? Do 700,000 Lebanese people prefer living in refugee camps?

Do you want to see Zainabiyoun take over Pakistan and fire nuclear weapons on Israel because Iran's Supreme Leader said so?

 

[MastanKhan]

They were right when they called it a real estate war; the conflict's roots trace back to the Shatt al‑Arab waterway dispute between Iran and Iraq, along with some border zones and marshlands. It was further bastardized by the GCC Arab's to make it a Sunni and Shia issue, and further cemented it as an Arab versus Persian issue, along with the goal of stopping the spread of the Ayatollah Revolution.

In another post, you mentioned Iran was acquiring arms from Israel. I would argue that any state fighting for its very survival would seek arms from any source, regardless of whether the aligning policies match the regime's intent or not. It's at that point that nothing matters more than having a viable state.

As for our position as Pakistani's, the further away Pakistan is from the GCC, and its shanagians and kutt kani, the better. Nothing good has ever come from that region, and never will.

The Arab's maintain a duality policy; their lips betray their actual thoughts, their actions betray their statement, and their hearts contradict their words in their entirety. (@RescueRanger)

It would be best to just quietly walk away as the Turks did.

Hi,

I never had disagreement with Iran buying weapons from Israel---.

It is the american saying " sh-it happens in life ". You have to buy weapons for your survival as PAF bought parts from Israel.

Bottomine is that the GCC has been weak militarily for a longtime---. So---desperate moments bring about decisions that one would not have made if the situation was different.

As for the 80's war with Iraq---Iran was warned by the americans that war is coming---. Iran ignored that gesture---rather condemned it---. Afterwards the the americans supported the Iraqis---.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Do you want to see Zainabiyoun take over Pakistan and fire nuclear weapons on Israel because Iran's Supreme Leader said so?

nice deflection , iran didnt prop up hezb they just supported them while zianabiyoun is a terror org no question about it hezb isnt ( even though they dont have good record in syria )

Do 700,000 Lebanese people prefer living in refugee camps?

well they soon will be becasue of the labanese goverments inaction

Is Lebanon a disputed territory?

makes no difference, focus on what they not where they operate

according to israelis that territory belongs to them, from nile to euphrates .so yes that makes it disputed

So, in your opinion, foreign funded Hezbollah has more authority over the Lebanese Government?

yes becasue that goverment is a puppet .


doesnt matter where they get their funding or training ( they will accept whoever helps)


just this comment shows how ignorant you are
they will not prop up lebanon they will destroy it and capture it ,and right now hezb is the only one standing in their way , just like in 2006 when they tried and failed


then you can be happy with your cucked arabs and even be proud that you gave them aid in their refugee camps , and demand loyalty like emaratis do on social media .
always victim blaming

 

[MastanKhan]

Seriously?
Just run with anything?
There is NO and I mean NO core belief in Islam that propels the faithful for a messianic thousand year rule... unlike Jewish prayer... the aim for the third temple, restart the sacrifice at the alter... or dispensationalism, return of the Messiah, rapture, Armageddon, Anti Christ are to multiple denominations as core beliefs interpreted directly from the scriptures.
Nothing, NOTHING parallel exists in Islam... the whole field of escathology is nascent ans formed primarily around Ahadith that are NOT theological in their nature or context, nor are Muslims motivated to pray either for the return of Christ or act to usher in the age as to prepare the grounds. It is fundamentally a scholarly exercise in literature. For some, a parallel understanding on "our side" interpretation while the other two remain the instigators and primary movers. They moved in the region for this sole declared purpose!

Hi,

What the fck was that HaHa---. All my shia acquintance have that belief and they share it well and often and many other pakistanis---.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Hi,

What the fck was that HaHa---. All my shia acquintance have that belief and they share it well and often and many other pakistanis---.

Again!!!
For the second time... their belief is not coded in theology.

Everyone goes back and reinterprets the board after things have played out in a certain angle.
I do not want to discuss it any further as you and I both know that we cannot quote scripture to second any drivel anyone out there concocts for a following.