Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

collapse of IR regime and supporters!

now, dont tell me, IR objective is the same!

it cant be, bec, zio state is way smaller than IR!

so, IR is set to deliver less meaningful blows from the start?!

is that what you are saying?

Survival and no loss of territory. Isn't that enough?

 

[Immortals]

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It’s time Putin is overthrown and Medvedev is given a chance to rule. Putin’s handling of this war has been a disaster.

 

[hasssanali8998]

so still one sided , no date no place

 

[hasssanali8998]

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It’s time Putin is overthrown and Medvedev is given a chance to rule. Putin’s handling of this war has been a disaster.

Russian oil export docks at the Baltic port of Ust-Luga are ablaze after an overnight Ukrainian drone attack.

 

[Immortals]

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The propaganda campaign is ending

 

[kobra]

 

[nervouscar]

Salam
After going through much of post , i have 2 questions:
1- most people are saying KSA is pushing for this adventure.But i find that the maps of greater israel(as shown by netanz) has 20% of KSA land included whereas 0% iranian land.why would KSA support israel in this war who is going to usurp its land?
2- If the chief jewish negotiators(steve witkoff or jared kushner)are assassinated, can ivanka trump be president in 2028.. for ref some claim it as present in simpson
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3- simpson also shows a scenario where pakistan is nuked by india , can we consider this plausible after amb abdul basit statement that pakistan will nuke india(mumbai and dehli) if attacked by usa .a later step in this war when pakistan goes open against israel.

 

[Oracle]

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so still one sided , no date no place

Iran will never agree on one side and start peace talk on other side.

Otherwise their nation will never forgive them

 

[kobra]

Crocodile tears. I wonder if he is using the same thing as Erika Kirk.

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But we have been told that Israil is controlling whole of south lebanon and hezbullah is finished completely.... oopss

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Survival and no loss of territory. Isn't that enough?

survival is'nt an option here!

why would I fight for anything, which is my right?

after all, IR was not the aggressor

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

civil war may start?

Here in the US?

I am ready. Been ready. Lingering anger issues from the late 70s / early 80s to be addressed.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

What is iraqi government going to do about it? I thought they just declared war on US after they left, are they taking back their country money as well ?

They can demand Chinese Yuan payments for all oil transactions

 

[ShapurII]

The plutonium pathway died with Arak Heavy Water. That would have given enough nuclear bombs for 6-8 bombs a year! We naively gave it up due to traitor reformists in Iran. It would be a good bargaining chip today or in June.

Anyway Bushehr cannot be used for plutonium pathway. Russians operate the fuel rod loading and spent rod removal process under strict IAEA supervision. Barring a complete departure from NPT and kicking the Russians out, that pathway is dead as well.

My thesis is that in June iran took some centrifuges out of Fordow and some material and distributed to 2-3 sites across the country. Without Khamenai’s knowing, Iran began racing towards a bomb anticipating that a second war was only months away.

Thus if we assume that Iran took time to set up these micro enrichment sites and also build the supporting components and assembling the parts needed for at least 3 nuclear weapon devices. Then given a timeline of 12-18 months. Iran should be going nuclear anywhere between May to Nov of this year.

Yeah, dismantling the IR-40 reactor was the worst clause of the JCPOA. And it was never rebuilt even though the Parliament forced the executive body to rebuild it.

I don't think we need micro enrichment sites as long as the Pickaxe site is safe and well-guarded.
If Iran still has centrifuges (a big if), then the Pickaxe site is the perfect place for them.
Micro enrichment does not work for Iran's current situation because first of all, it increases the risk of the detection of the program and secondly, those sites would most likely be vulnerable to aerial bombing. The Pickaxe site is already 200m under mountains and reinforced concrete.

 

[Jango]

I seriously think, despite what everyone in this thread is saying, the Arabs are posturing and don't intend to join any offensive. Its a scare tactic.

Qatar just seems to be the first to realize that its not working, and will make things worse.

I don't believe the Gulf Arabs will join the war in any real capacity.

Seems like it, but the signaling from UAE businessmen, ex-ambassadors and so on is pretty hawkish.

Although those guys are always hawkish and then realize they bit off more than they could chew.

 

[ShapurII]

survival is'nt an option here!

why would I fight for anything, which is my right?

after all, IR was not the aggressor

Because you're going to be denied that right very soon if you don't fight back?