Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Shags101 said:
He’s going to try for sure everyday this war drags on and Iran hasn’t capitulated to his demands no white flag is a day he looks stupider and stupider for starting a war that never had to be started in the first place…..not a big fan of saddam and the likes of him but where’s the weapons of mass destruction…..there never was any at all to begin with 🤦
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Believing wat trump and his gang of idiots say and claim is stupid.

USA is like headless chicken right now. They are trying to show a brave and bold face while severely defeated in all aspects so far. While in the bacground they are crying and begging for ceasefire. this is the reality.

Statements from Trump, e.g. Iranians want him to be Sl but he refused. Can any sane person even mention in private gathering?

In this desperation, very first move will be uncontrolled idiotic use of USAF, than only a little window of opprtunity could be created for Para, while Iran will be silent for some time, may be hours ....but what next, who know Iran might have mined all the potential targets of land forces.

Afghanistan was somewhat similar landscape. Iran has more caves and carefully bult tunnels all around just for this purpose, so USAF can destry whatever is on surface, while IRGC having tea in their tunnels. we have seen this so far concerning missiles.

I am just yapping, but I do not see USA achieving anything during the time frame, before USA public start coming out, and very first state announce to be independent...Texas////
 
So the pentagon told you they need more time how do I feel trump is planning this attack on April fools day as a weird joke I mean he is a weird individual and becoming more unhinged as everyday passses
 
UndercoverJIX said:
Believing wat trump and his gang of idiots say and claim is stupid.

USA is like headless chicken right now. They are trying to show a brave and bold face while severely defeated in all aspects so far. While in the bacground they are crying and begging for ceasefire. this is the reality.

Statements from Trump, e.g. Iranians want him to be Sl but he refused. Can any sane person even mention in private gathering?

In this desperation, very first move will be uncontrolled idiotic use of USAF, than only a little window of opprtunity could be created for Para, while Iran will be silent for some time, may be hours ....but what next, who know Iran might have mined all the potential targets of land forces.

Afghanistan was somewhat similar landscape. Iran has more caves and carefully bult tunnels all around just for this purpose, so USAF can destry whatever is on surface, while IRGC having tea in their tunnels. we have seen this so far concerning missiles.

I am just yapping, but I do not see USA achieving anything during the time frame, before USA public start coming out, and very first state announce to be independent...Texas////
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He’s going to do it Iran can’t give in to any of bibi or trumps demands they can’t even do ceasefire anymore because all that would is allow to restock their defenses while Iran has to rebuild at a lot slower pace than before it’s their time to show trump yes they had their finger on the proverbial button the whole time they just thought people were sane enough to believe that they would do it if they saw an existential threat to their country
 
Immortals said:
Radiation levels dissipate quickly, falling by a factor of 10 every 7 fold increase in time (x^7)

A 10 kt blast creates immediate lethal radiation zone of 6-8KM.

Nuclear weapons destructive force are Airburst weapons and do poorly at penetration depth when you cause the detonation on impact into mountain bedrock only gets tens of meters penetration. Radiation fallout would be less on a direct impact explosion vs airburst.

Assuming Iran’s operators have access to radioactive protective equipment and medicine. I have seen videos they have at least chemically resistant suits (HAZMaT) for liquid refueling in the tunnels . They could operate in such an environment especially after the 10*10 factor reduction in radiation after first 49 hours.

Important to note the radiation cloud would not stay static and would be taken by upper atmosphere winds to neighboring countries.
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100% correct. That is why US gave up on nuclear bunker busters and only uses conventional bunker buster bombs instead.

They were good at neither penetration, nor having sufficient impacts towards areas with closed airflows. The effects always ended up going towards the least path of resistance, which was always the outside atmosphere. While the radiation impact was minimal due to dense rock cover.

People think nukes are an all-to go solution for every problem, which they clearly aren't.
 
mangekyo said:
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If true news then it is declaration of war. These glass house rats and their belongings become legitimate target.
 
Watandar said:
Real reason is that the Marines and 82nd Airborne may have arrived in the region but need to be staged properly. Same with the Emirati and other GCC forces.

Of course this could also be deceit and he starts a ground war on Friday anyway.
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Invasion of islands is hoax in God knows with what intention.
You do not invade shores and islands without massive navy and logistical force, period.
Really doubt that americans are suicidal that much what is more "realistic" is massive air borne operation for limited period of time with large close air support to retrieve nuclear material in order that they can declare "victory" but that is also very risky and can not be sustained by more then day or two, not mentioning extraction efforts.
 
Shags101 said:
So the pentagon told you they need more time how do I feel trump is planning this attack on April fools day as a weird joke I mean he is a weird individual and becoming more unhinged as everyday passses
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He is a retard and a loser. Nothing unpredictable about him.

US troops will not be deployed with lack of strategic objectives for war.

There is no element of surprise to anything they can do. Everyone is on alert.

Hezbollah threw Israel's calculus off. Israel wants more time to think about how it wants to spread its troops. If it wants to take some out of Gaza or not.

And it wants to seize more territory in Lebanon before any dramatic actions in Iran

I still think Iran is being a bit calculated with Israel and should have struck vital facilities by now, but it could be operational challenges holding them back.
 
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