Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[kimjongun]

Bro look on the bright side, these the jokers we are up against:

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IK these indians are absolute shitheads but thats a Video made by AI

 

[MS Sandhu]

Bro look on the bright side, these the jokers we are up against:

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Looks like ai

 

[hasssanali8998]

Iran

oil money man
we dont have that

 

[kimjongun]

I think cruise missile engines are produced in Pakistan now.
Cruise missiles with Ukrainian engines had 750km range , ones with local engines have 450km.
If a sanctioned country like Iran can produce MRBMs in thousands, it should not be a problem for Pakistan to get at least F1 & F2 in enough numbers.

Once we get aerodynamics in control, Ballistic missiles can be quite survivable.

The only indeginous CM engine was proposed by GIDS and idk how much of it has been developed , Ukrainian engines are better tho and we should just reverse engeneer them like how IRAN did with russian engines and making cruise missiles travel thousand of KM.
or just go towards turkey to TOT TJ series turbines and keep getting them from ukraine too.
F1 should probably be in numbers as it is an MLRS , F2 weights quite a lot .
In our scenario , Boost and Midcourse face interception will be common

 

[MS Sandhu]

oil money man
we dont have that

I was talking from sanctions perspective. @Bratva highlighted that we can can't import critical components due to sanctions so our production cost is higher.
My point is if iran can mass produce MRBMs in numbers at comparatively cheaper costs even with sanctions in place, we should be able to do so at least for F1/F2.

 

[Starlord]

I mean seeing the success of Rockets/BM I would say Pakistan should invest money in mass producing Fateh I/II rockets, and FPV/Kamikaze drones.

 

[falcon34]

The only indeginous CM engine was proposed by GIDS and idk how much of it has been developed , Ukrainian engines are better tho and we should just reverse engeneer them like how IRAN did with russian engines and making cruise missiles travel thousand of KM.
or just go towards turkey to TOT TJ series turbines and keep getting them from ukraine too.
F1 should probably be in numbers as it is an MLRS , F2 weights quite a lot .
In our scenario , Boost and Midcourse face interception will be common

You don't offer cruise missiles for export if don't make the engines yourself. Look at the bulky size of our cms clearly shows the engines are ours.
The real problem is actuators and mission control computers @JamD had mentioned those Components before.
I don't think ballistic missiles would be a problem to manufacture we have the industrial base set up for them but will struggle for long range CMs.
F2 was inducted in late 2024, Mass production would have started after all the tests and new productions lines just before war, I don't think the production number were there for a war. F1 had solid 3 years of production before the war.

 

[Salza]

oil money man
we dont have that

And what about North Korea? Their missile tech is now even better than Iran. They too have been heavily sanctioned for the last 3 decades yet their missile programme is thriving. With China as our main supplier, just like in case of NK, I don't think mass production of our missiles is a problem just that it wasn't part of our fighting doctrine which now has been getting updated with the creation of rocket force and lesson learnt from Pak/ind May conflict and Israel / Iran / US war. Earlier our missiles were for strategic purpose that is, sole purpose was of delivery a nuclear bomb but now conventional use of missiles and drones will be case moving forward for a short war with India.

 

[Areesh]

no, not a chance in hell. I would be impressed if we had 100 in TOTAL of both combined.

Bacha paida ho k barha ho k job kar raha hota hai in the time when first babar was tested till today and we don't even have 100 babar in our arsenal

All thanks to paf who saves us all the time or else Pakistani military industry looks like a joke to me

Pakistanis thought nukes are enough and some missiles that are supposed to be used in 23rd march parade other than that there was no plan for any attack by the enemy like it happened on 10th may 2025

 

[kimjongun]

And what about North Korea? Their missile tech is now even better than Iran. They too have been heavily sanctioned for the last 3 decades yet their missile programme is thriving. With China as our main supplier, just like in case of NK, I don't think mass production of our missiles is a problem just that it wasn't part of our fighting doctrine which now has been getting updated with the creation of rocket force and lesson learnt from Pak/ind May conflict and Israel / Iran / US war. Earlier our missiles were for strategic purpose that is, sole purpose was of delivery a nuclear bomb but now conventional use of missiles and drones will be case moving forward for a short war with India.

North Korean missile program has a decades of r&d , help from both china and russia , and them stealing things from ukrainian space companies after the collapse of soviet union and what not , they are a whole other ballgame.

 

[IceCold]

Their fixation with subsonic continues for reasons the boomer leadership can explain.

Even those like Babur and RA'AD were not used, I wonder why? India was openly using a nuclear-capable CM. Why couldn't we? I guess there was no desire to respond, and if not for PAF, the army and political leadership were content with PAF downing IAF jets. Rana Sanaullah even said that on record, we have responded.

 

[MS Sandhu]

no, not a chance in hell. I would be impressed if we had 100 in TOTAL of both combined.

Pakistan imported almost 270 turbojet engines in 2017-16 only from Ukraine and Czech Republic.
May be not all of them were for cruise missiles, even if half of them were for cruise missiles, i assume we produced 100+ in just two years.

So I don't know if you have some inside info but from publicly available data, educated guess is we have baburs in good stocks.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Sometimes, i feel our mass production concerns are ill placed.
If we can produce much complex JF17s - 24 units/year and Tanks like 50-60 units per year (confirmed by Quwa) , then producing much simpler Shahpar - 2 drones and babur cruise missiles 100/year should not be a problem.

So the problem may be priorities
Not the capability itself.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

I was talking from sanctions perspective. @Bratva highlighted that we can can't import critical components due to sanctions so our production cost is higher.
My point is if iran can mass produce MRBMs in numbers at comparatively cheaper costs even with sanctions in place, we should be able to do so at least for F1/F2.

Political ownership. We created robust nuclear weapon program and then missile program because every government took ownership of these programs. Here, not a very long ago, people were super chill. Ji Ab Jang ho hi nahi sakti kiyo k dono mulk Atomic powers hain. (As both countries are now nuclear powers so there is no way a war is possible). This has proven wrong twice in last 6-7 years and there are more than enough reasons why it will happen again. Israelis will make sure they make India fight Pakistan as many times as possible. If RSS/BJP agenda wasn't enough now this added catalyst of Zionist obsession to de-nuclearize every Muslim nation will be an added problem for our strategic interets. We need a very clear national defense strategy where we need to revisit our minimum credible deterrence approach. It has been breached twice by India in single decade and this is serious challenge.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan should work to convert FATAH into something like this. Fatah is good but we need a version like this one also.