Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[RescueRanger]

Can someone tell me the reality of this post on Human Rights Watch….

Pakistan: Airstrike on Afghan Medical Facility Unlawful

A Pakistani airstrike on a drug treatment center in Afghanistan on March 16, 2026, was an unlawful attack and a possible war crime.

www.hrw.org

Between 2001-2017 there were a 97[1] attacks on healthcare facilities and healthcare workers inside Pakistan at the hands of terrorists... WHERE was the international media then?

Where was the condemnation then? Where were the ethical questions then?

UN / PAKISTAN HOSPITAL ATTACK

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the “terrorist bombing” of the Civil Hospital in the Pakistani city of Quetta today. UNIFEED-UNTV

media.un.org

PAKISTAN will continue unimpeded until our objectives have been met.

 

[hussain0216]

Kya Pakistan Ko TTP Sy Negotiations Karni Chahiyay? ft Sumera Khan

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Why can’t Pakistan solve the Afghanistan problem even after 25 years? Did talking to militants backfire? And is Pakistan still repeating the same mistakes?



In this episode, TCM’s Wahid Ali sits down with Sumera Khan to break down Pakistan’s war on terror, its Afghanistan policy, and what went wrong.



00:00 - Intro

02:24 - How Did Ex-FATA Become a Fault Line?

08:24 - Why Did Pakistan Support Afghan Taliban?

12:01 - Are All Afghans Against Pakistan?

16:51 - Why Did Pakistan Negotiate With TTP?

20:06 - Why Were Security Operations Delayed?

27:17 - Did Locals Support Security Forces?

32:54 - How Was the Situation Before 2021?

35:35 - The Early Leadership of TTP

41:59 - The Problematic Leadership of TTP

46:19 - Pakistan's Stance as a Hard State



@RescueRanger @VCheng @Oscar @Dalit @Rational Philosopher @hasssanali8998 @PAKISTANFOREVER @hussain0216 @Fatman17 @Signalian @Distant_Observer



The answer to the above is simple



The answer is BROTHERHOOD



We thought they were our neighbors, our Muslim brothers and kin



And as a result we jumped through hoop after hoop trying to appease a weaker enemy

We made multiple mistakes because of BROTHERHOOD

We let millions of our enemy into our country

We went soft on them when they committed crimes, invasions and attacks



We hoped that BROTHERHOOD would make them see sense and stop them attacking us



We hoped that is that if we took them in, supported them against other enemies like the USSR or USA they would wake up and see the BROTHERHOOD and make peace and stop attacking us







BROTHERHOOD led us down this path

If the Afghans were Hindus we would have mass slaughtered them, like in Bangla in 71

We would have made mountains of skulls of the Hindu afghans

We would not tolerate the presence of Hindus in our cities, with their language and customs

Our religious right we be screaming from the pulpits about the Hindu Afghan enemy





But because of BROTHERHOOD we made mistake after mistake





No MORE,

Hate afghans

Hurt afghans

See ALL afghans as the enemy

Wage a war upon their language, their culture, their people and their land

Persecute afghans like the enemy they are

 

[Dalit]

We will have to wait for independent findings. Do you want to bring up all the war crimes the Afghanis have done to Pakistan citizens over the decades? Blowing up schools and mosques? But this has become MORE important to you than the constant barrage of terror on Pakistan?

We don't have to explain anything to anyone.

Keep bombing the shit out of TTP and Afghan Taliban. The mission is clear. Set a bufferzone inside Afghanistan.

 

[peagle]

Definitely you are right
But can someone verify if this is biased or level of accuracy?

It's accuracy but with nuance.

 

[peagle]

Afghanistan problem even after 25 years?

It's been nearly 50 years. I don't know why Pakistani analyst forget everything before 9/11.

 

[iron shrapnel]

Can u fukin believe?

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I saw this 2 days ago and didn't want to post it here... The discussion becomes political and then mods jump in... What i can say is that old Peshawaris hate what the city has become... They would move if they could because of issues like this.. The city is unrecognizable..

 

[Waz]

EVEN the educated afghandus, different afghandu minorities think that Pakistani territory belongs to them. Pakistan NEEDS to inflict such a LARGE catastrophe on afghandustan that they NEVER EVER think about messing with Pakistan again.

They don't think that at all bro, and the Tajiks, Hazara and Uzbeks don't give a damn about the Durand line and even balk at the idea of becoming a smaller minority if hypethtically speaking Afghanistan took Pashtun dominated lands in Pakistan.

 

[Taimoor]

You're presenting strange logic.
Please don't confuse narratives of state policy with facts.

If today the state declares or passes a law that everyone born in wedlock is a b.strd, does it become true?
No.

Our history is our history no matter what narratives are preached by anyone, our state or anyone else.
The fact remains that the Indus civilisation, Islam and everything else in between are part and parcel of our Indus Pakistani culture and society. Acceptance of one doesn't equate to rejection of another. Each generation is free to express themselves how they see fit, it doesn't mean your other history has changed
These days you can legally "divorce" your parents, but they remain your parents because they created you, facts don't change. The Indus soil and everything that took place on this soil belongs to the people of Pakistan, that cannot change just because he, she, they or someone said something.

What's strange about it ?

When we are bringing whole generation with mind conditioning that Arabs are our overlords and our identity starts from them, you are basically rendering a big chunk of population mentally unable to grasp the bigger picture.

Just look at our behaviour, Indian and Afghanistan have got claims over our territory because of some not too distant history. And in response we take all that non sense without reply becuase mentally we are stuck at bin qasim. At state level, we don't even owe IVC as solely ours, let along invoke our right over Afghanistan and India through it.

 

[iron shrapnel]

They don't think that at all bro, and the Tajiks, Hazara and Uzbeks don't give a damn about the Durand line and even balk at the idea of becoming a smaller minority if hypethtically speaking Afghanistan took Pashtun dominated lands in Pakistan.

While they don't do this generally but will ride the wave when it's to their advantage and especially if it's related to access to the sea.

 

[Waz]

While they don't do this generally but will ride the wave when it's to their advantage and especially if it's related to access to the sea.

No they don't and I know loads in different walks of life. There is no 'wave' for them to ride at the moment under the Taliban hell that has been imposed on them, again by Pakistan's stupid policies.

 

[Sanin]

Between 2001-2017 there were a 97[1] attacks on healthcare facilities and healthcare workers inside Pakistan at the hands of terrorists... WHERE was the international media then?

Where was the condemnation then? Where were the ethical questions then?

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UN / PAKISTAN HOSPITAL ATTACK

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the “terrorist bombing” of the Civil Hospital in the Pakistani city of Quetta today. UNIFEED-UNTV

media.un.org

PAKISTAN will continue unimpeded until our objectives have been met.

Sir agreed
My whole purpose was to inquire if this is biased platform or not…

 

[Waz]

Only a tiny handful of people on this forum will remember back in the late 90's when people stated that the policy of Pashtun alignment was flawed, and the refusal of the elder Taliban to recognise the Durand should have been a bad omen for the establishment to take. But no, they followed undeterred and now are being sucked into a war that sees no end, whilst a far more powerful enemy India arms itself to the teeth and has plenty of time to recuperate after the last conflict.
Pakistan needs solutions fast and one of those is a major tie up with the Northern forces to bring the Taliban to the table.

 

[peagle]

What's strange about it ?

When we are bringing whole generation with mind conditioning that Arabs are our overlords and our identity starts from them, you are basically rendering a big chunk of population mentally unable to grasp the bigger picture.

Just look at our behaviour, Indian and Afghanistan have got claims over our territory because of some not too distant history. And in response we take all that non sense without reply becuase mentally we are stuck at bin qasim. At state level, we don't even owe IVC as solely ours, let along invoke our right over Afghanistan and India through it.

Seriously what is wrong with you?
Don't confuse Islam with Arabs, no one thinks of Arabs as overlords, you come out with insane wording, these are the wordings used by hateful others against you and you don't have the capacity to differentiate. You are doing the exact thing you are opposing, you are repeating an accusation thrown at you. It makes zero sense.

People can claim the sky is Purple, it doesn't make it true. I don't understand why you are getting worked up. Although I understand where you are coming from but your logic escapes me. None of what you say is true.

 

[I*R*A]

They are harami brothers

You call them brothers based on what?

Religion? >>>>> they do not think of you equal Muslims, some of them are takfiri to the core

Culture? >>>>> Pakistan has some very diverse culture, except for ilaka ghair kay monkeys, there is not much similarity. They eat meat you eat Daal.

Border? >>>>> Pakistan has remained strategic depth for them, saved them. Yet when Pakistan faced aggression from its mortal enemy recently, the FM brother was touring the enemy state, shaking hands. Pakistan accepts them as a state, it were them who did not accept Pakistan.

I do not understand what is the basis for their grievances against Pakistan and Pakistanis. Did we invite USSR? Did we bring US & NATO to this region and their country?

I wish Pakistan had kept some hostages from Quetta thing families to make sure these hypocrites do not start playing games.

 

[Taimoor]

Seriously what is wrong with you?
Don't confuse Islam with Arabs, no one thinks of Arabs as overlords, you come out with insane wording, these are the wordings used by hateful others against you and you don't have the capacity to differentiate. You are doing the exact thing you are opposing, you are repeating an accusation thrown at you. It makes zero sense.

People can claim the sky is Purple, it doesn't make it true. I don't understand why you are getting worked up. Although I understand where you are coming from but your logic escapes me. None of what you say is true.

I thought I made very easy for you to understand, let me try other way.

On Indian Parliament I beleive they put the map of bharat mata which include all of Pakistan and on west, Afghans claim lands till attock.

If you understand and agree with above, you tell me at our state/establishment level and general population, what is our response and narrative? You have to have some counter strategy to both these neighbours right or you going to give them free run? I have never heard at say Pakistani social media or even at state level us having claims of lands both in India and Afghanistan based on the fact that we are the custodians of IVC.