US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Hamartia Antidote]

Without a land invasion, Iran can't be defeated by the US military. But here's the problem: Iran isn't Saddam Hussein. They won't just sit there waiting for your troops to leisurely finish deployment. They'll hit your logistics hubs and troop concentrations with whatever they have. Wake up and smell the gunpowder: the best outcome you can hope for in this war is losing every base in the Middle East, watching the petrodollar system implode, and seeing the Gulf sheikhdoms stop viewing you as their protector. Middle Eastern capital won't see the US as a safe haven anymore – just look at the Qatari princess touring Chinese tech firms days ago. That's the barometer. If you launch an offensive under these conditions, even your last shred of imperial delusion will crumble into dust.

Again what is your definition of “win or defeat”. Okay we do a land war and wipe out 49 Iranian divisions…is that suddenly your definition of a win..or does it have to be a minimum of 50?

Is the minimum we have to also capture 100% of the government and put soldiers on every corner. Not 99%..100%.

This obsession with “win or defeat” is bizarre.

 

[Blain2]

Most base infrastructure damage was sustained in Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, etc, but the US isn’t using these for air operations. The US has completed over 13,000 combat sorties. Combined with Israel it’s over 20,000 total. Base damage has had minimial effect on US operations.

-1 F-35 was damaged and returned to base
- 4 F-15s destroyed
- 1 A-10 crashed
- 1 E-3 destroyed
- 2 KC-135 destroyed, 5-7 damaged but 4 were confirmed to return to flight per Trump

In the grand scheme, these aren’t significant losses

In a war that serves NO US interests directly per se.

American public should be asking their government what this is all about. It certainly isn't helping the US having expended $45B till date on a war that is meaningless to most Americans. $45B that could have funded countless broken projects/initiatives within the country.

PS: A-10 was also "destroyed" after being hit by Iranian fire.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Dropsitenews are good and they seem to confirm the list I have put together except for the F35 it seems

Hey remember the F-35 is a boondoggle to lots of “experts” and a certain sitting president …

 

[VCheng]

And yet, we choose to start a fight without moving adequate air defense assets in sufficient quantities to protect these bases. Don't you see a problem?

Trying to run a marathon without with one's pants around the ankles is bound to cause a headlong stumble or three before one gets going after pulling them up.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Looks like Trump may get an ally

Hormuz is open , you don't need to say ! Thank you Pakistan.

China, Europe and why Beijing took a swing at Iran over the Strait of Hormuz

Beijing takes a stand at the United Nations at the closure of shipping lanes.

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China, Europe and why Beijing took a swing at Iran over the Strait of Hormuz​

In a rare condemnation of its strategic partner, China has come out in opposition to Iran’s attacks on Gulf nations, calling for a ceasefire and a guarantee of the safety of shipping lanes.

Addressing a UN Security Council meeting on Thursday, Fu Cong, China’s permanent representative to the United Nations, said: “China does not support Iran’s attacks on Gulf Cooperation Council nations and condemns all indiscriminate attacks on innocent civilians and non-military targets. The security of shipping lanes must not be disrupted.”

 

[F-22Raptor]

In a war that serves NO US interests directly per se.

American public should be asking their government what this is all about. It certainly isn't helping the US having expended $45B till date on a war that is meaningless to most Americans. $45B that could have funded countless broken projects/initiatives within the country.

PS: A-10 was also "destroyed" after being hit by Iranian fire.

The strategic degradation of the the Iranian regime, its military, defense industrial base, and ability to project power outside its borders is absolutely in US interests. Cost of inaction would have lead to a 2030 nuclear armed Iran shielded by 10,000+ ballistic missiles.

Yes, the A-10 was destroyed in CSAR efforts along with the two damaged Black Hawks.

 

[lightning f57]

Iran managed to hit 6 US aircraft after US carried out more than 13,000 combat flights over their country?

Are you impressed by Iran or the US?

Iran had no proper airforce to start with, their best air defenses were taken out last june. So yes you can pat yourself on the back and say we did 000's sorties perfectly - which was expected nothing to brag about - although still stand off munitions are being used.

Iran set up to fight unconventionally, the US has not taken out a single missile base after more than a month of dropping everything they could baring nukes. Yeah go ahead pat yourself, great thing to be proud of.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

against a country that doesn't have an air force and allegedly no air defense? It was well known that Iran had the ability to hit all our bases in the middle east with missiles and drones. And yet, we choose to start a fight without moving adequate air defense assets in sufficient quantities to protect these bases. Don't you see a problem? I asked you this question before and you didn't answer. We lost are long range OTH radars in the middle east. Do you know why? We have more than enough close in weapons systems including anti drone lasers and jammers to array a layered defense against swarm tactics. We choose not to move them in place before starting Epic Fury. Why?

He's not received the official PowerPoint talking points yet.

Quite frankly, and I just got off the phone with a Marine brother about it; we want this to escalate is the consensus.

 

[Fatman17]

Retired KC-135 moved from ‘Boneyard’ storage to main USAF tanker base - FlightGlobal

The move comes after the loss of multiple KC-135 aerial refuellers as part of the ongoing air war against Iran. The US Air Force (USAF) has transferred a retired Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker out of long-term storage, possibly with the intent to return the jet to active duty. Open source flight...

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KC-135 moved out of the Boneyard

 

[MNZGamerX]

Iran war is ‘the end of American empire’ – Tucker Carlson

The US is unable to restore order in the Strait of Hormuz, casting doubt on its role as a global policeman, the conservative host has said

Published 3 Apr, 2026 13:26



The Iran war has ushered in the “end of American Empire”, conservative host Tucker Carlson has argued, suggesting that US President Donald Trump’s call for allies to secure the Strait of Hormuz proved that Washington could no longer function as the world’s policeman.

Speaking on his podcast on Thursday, Carlson commented on Trump’s remarks in which the president threatened to bomb Iran into the “stone age” without providing an exact timeline for a ceasefire while urging other countries to “take the lead” in unblocking the Strait of Hormuz – a strategic chokepoint which accounts for around 20% of global oil trade.

Washington’s NATO allies, however, have been reluctant to step in following US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

Carlson argued that “the nation that forces the peace is the nation in charge,” adding that “the country that forces order on the Persian Gulf, that opens the Strait of Hormuz, is the nation that runs the world by definition.”
For decades since WWII, the nation capable of maintaining order was assumed to be the US, but the Hormuz crisis has shown it’s no longer the case, the journalist continued. “We can’t open the Straits of Hormuz,” Carlson said. “The President of the United States said that last night – someone else do it. So we’re done.”

He argued that even if the US were to completely destroy Iran as a cohesive nation, the remaining warlords would have no difficulties in disrupting the maritime route by laying mines, using cheap drones, or even just by threatening to do so, meaning that the hostilities would have to end in a diplomatic settlement with Tehran sooner or later.

”What’s happening in Iran is the end of American empire as we understand it. And that’s sad. Empire’s dying. But it’s not the end of the United States,” he added.

Carlson acknowledged that the transition would bring “a lot of suffering and sadness,” but noted that it also carried the promise of a US that could turn its attention to the Western hemisphere, also rich in resources and vital for America’s stability, without the need to occupy “countries you’ve never been to.”

Carlson, generally supportive of Trump, has been a vocal critic of US-Israeli strikes on Iran, prompting the US president to claim that the journalist “has lost his way” and is not really part of the MAGA movement.

Trump’s appeal to allies to reopen Strait of Hormuz signals ‘end of American Empire’ – Tucker Carlson

Trump’s Iran war speech proves the US cannot reopen the Strait of Hormuz, marking the end of the American Empire, Tucker Carlson has said

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Something I predicted a year ago -

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[Oscar]

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AWACS planes hit here on the runway

Are Iranians successfully hitting Israel far behind the line...they sure are...but that's where the line is.

The casual dismissal that "that's where the line is" is dismissal of how an air campaign actually functions which is also why on the subject of the HEU extraction a French minister just said the current admin is snorting cocaine.

You do not just move heavy support aircraft a few hundred miles back and continue the war as if nothing happened. Space translates directly into time. Every extra mile an AWACS or a tanker has to fly from a newly designated safe runway means less loiter time over the battlespace, fewer refueling tracks, degraded radar coverage, and a drastic drop in sortie generation for the strike packages.

This was never some isolated tactical error or a parking mistake. It was an operational inevitability. The commanders put those assets at Prince Sultan because the mission physics demanded they be there to generate any meaningful support.

They accepted the risk because they had to.

What we are watching is the total collapse of the sterile, frictionless war we were promised. We were sold this intervention by the exact same apparatus that manufactured the WMD consensus two decades ago. Washington planners, relying on deeply compromised intelligence from Israeli sources and defense industry think tanks, constructed a fantasy where American forces could manage regional hegemony from untouchable sanctuaries. They guaranteed a clean war of controlled escalation.

Now the threat envelope has expanded, the sanctuaries are bleeding, and the entire architecture of that lie is exposed. The people who architected this conflict to secure foreign and corporate interests are not the ones sitting on a targeted runway. American flight crews are the ones paying the physical price for a fundamentally fraudulent strategic premise. You either leave them exposed, or you retreat further out and watch the air support hollow itself out entirely. The Pentagon or yourself can draw all the imaginary lines it wants, but physics and the enemy dictate the reality.

 

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[F-22Raptor]

Iran war is ‘the end of American empire’ – Tucker Carlson

The US is unable to restore order in the Strait of Hormuz, casting doubt on its role as a global policeman, the conservative host has said

Published 3 Apr, 2026 13:26

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The Iran war has ushered in the “end of American Empire”, conservative host Tucker Carlson has argued, suggesting that US President Donald Trump’s call for allies to secure the Strait of Hormuz proved that Washington could no longer function as the world’s policeman.

Speaking on his podcast on Thursday, Carlson commented on Trump’s remarks in which the president threatened to bomb Iran into the “stone age” without providing an exact timeline for a ceasefire while urging other countries to “take the lead” in unblocking the Strait of Hormuz – a strategic chokepoint which accounts for around 20% of global oil trade.

Washington’s NATO allies, however, have been reluctant to step in following US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

Carlson argued that “the nation that forces the peace is the nation in charge,” adding that “the country that forces order on the Persian Gulf, that opens the Strait of Hormuz, is the nation that runs the world by definition.”
For decades since WWII, the nation capable of maintaining order was assumed to be the US, but the Hormuz crisis has shown it’s no longer the case, the journalist continued. “We can’t open the Straits of Hormuz,” Carlson said. “The President of the United States said that last night – someone else do it. So we’re done.”

He argued that even if the US were to completely destroy Iran as a cohesive nation, the remaining warlords would have no difficulties in disrupting the maritime route by laying mines, using cheap drones, or even just by threatening to do so, meaning that the hostilities would have to end in a diplomatic settlement with Tehran sooner or later.

”What’s happening in Iran is the end of American empire as we understand it. And that’s sad. Empire’s dying. But it’s not the end of the United States,” he added.

Carlson acknowledged that the transition would bring “a lot of suffering and sadness,” but noted that it also carried the promise of a US that could turn its attention to the Western hemisphere, also rich in resources and vital for America’s stability, without the need to occupy “countries you’ve never been to.”

Carlson, generally supportive of Trump, has been a vocal critic of US-Israeli strikes on Iran, prompting the US president to claim that the journalist “has lost his way” and is not really part of the MAGA movement.

Trump’s appeal to allies to reopen Strait of Hormuz signals ‘end of American Empire’ – Tucker Carlson

Trump’s Iran war speech proves the US cannot reopen the Strait of Hormuz, marking the end of the American Empire, Tucker Carlson has said

www.rt.com

Something I predicted a year ago -

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Citing Russia Today and Tucker Carlson

 

[Davey Crockett]

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