Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

It seems bad, but I would take it as an anomaly for now. Then again, I really hope this spur Iran to arm it's people with MANPADs because this may not be the last time US loses its aircraft inside Iran especially with their stand off weapons depleting fast.

We can only pray and hope for the best that they deploy their air defences systems where necessary.

Manpads are not the same as an AK-47 that you just handover to civvies and then hope that "spray and pray" tactics achieve something. Manpads need trained crews and in the wrong and reckless hands can cause havoc to your own air forces.

 

[Immortals]

Very rational commentary.

The only minor detail is that all Trump needs is a tangible "win" on this nuclearisation narrative. He can get his 600kg HEU and declare himself as a victor, having achieved some gradeable outcome. I doubt he will concern himself with the rest of it and he probably won't go for all that.

Hormuz remains the real chokepoint that will undo USA unless they can resolve it.

Trump (or better yet the “Deep state” led by Israel) is not ending this war until:

• Gives up all its uranium and not just the HEU portion
• Opens the strait of Hormuz

They will continue fighting until it becomes politically unbearable and only then they will come with compromise to Iran

 

[gambit]

No offense. The US plays a different level. Iran military strength comes from its missile and drones arsenal. There isn’t much else if minus arms imports from Russia, China.

Am going to try...Again...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE.

 

[Watandar]

Am going to try...Again...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE.

Am going to explain it to you again

"YOU DON'T PLAY THE GAME THE US WANTS TO PLAY"

Because indeed nobody wastes more of their national resources on military and war than the US does. No, you come up with novel ways of fighting back where the Americans struggle, lash out and ultimately grow bored and leave.

 

[Immortals]

 

[SolarWarden]

CIA doing CIA things.

Prior to locating the Weapons System Officer (WSO) of the F-15E Strike Eagle downed Friday over Iran, the CIA launched a deception campaign by spreading word inside Iran that U.S. Forces had already found him and were attempting a ground exfiltration in Southern Iran. All the while, the CIA used “unique capabilities” to search for him, once found, his precise location was shared with the Pentagon, the U.S. military and the White House, with President Trump ordering an immediate rescue mission in Southern Iran. “This was the ultimate needle in a haystack but in this case it was a brave American soul inside a mountain crevice, invisible but for CIA’s capabilities,” a senior administration official told Axios.

 

[koolio]

 

[gambit]

Am going to explain it to you again

"YOU DON'T PLAY THE GAME THE US WANTS TO PLAY"

Because indeed nobody wastes more of their national resources on military and war than the US does. No, you come up with novel ways of fighting back where the Americans struggle, lash out and ultimately grow bored and leave.

Sure. Then do not have an air force, have only missiles, threatens US, then wait for US to come to your house.

 

[brazensword]

The UAE govt issued a warning to all foreign workers, if they leave the country, they will lose their property and bank accounts. No future entries.

Good luck

Many Shias have been arrested by the CID, their families passports and EID taken away, pending immediate deportation.

 

[baqai]

CIA doing CIA things.

Prior to locating the Weapons System Officer (WSO) of the F-15E Strike Eagle downed Friday over Iran, the CIA launched a deception campaign by spreading word inside Iran that U.S. Forces had already found him and were attempting a ground exfiltration in Southern Iran. All the while, the CIA used “unique capabilities” to search for him, once found, his precise location was shared with the Pentagon, the U.S. military and the White House, with President Trump ordering an immediate rescue mission in Southern Iran. “This was the ultimate needle in a haystack but in this case it was a brave American soul inside a mountain crevice, invisible but for CIA’s capabilities,” a senior administration official told Axios.

oh gosh ... American's and Indians have one thing in common, they can take even the smallest of things and make them sound melodramatic (and make a movie out of it)

 

[SolarWarden]

Tonight’s operation in Southern Iran which resulted in the successful rescue of a Weapons System Officer (WSO) onboard an American F-15E Strike Eagle downed Friday over Iran, involved hundreds of special forces troops and other military personnel, including members of the U.S. Navy’s SEAL Team Six, dozens of fighter and strike aircraft, helicopters, and cyber, space and other intelligence capabilities, officials tell The New York Times. Senior military officials described the mission to rescue the airman as “one of the most challenging and complex in the history of U.S. Special Operations” given the mountainous terrain, the airman’s injuries and Iranian forces rushing to the location in the mountains of Southern Iran.The WSO evaded Iranian forces for more than 24 hours, at one point hiking up a 7,000ft ridgeline, a senior U.S. military official said. U.S. attack aircraft dropped bombs and opened fire on Iranian convoys to keep them away from the area where the airman was hiding. As U.S. Special Forces converged on the downed airman, they fired their weapons to keep Iranian forces away from the rescue site, but did not engage in a firefight with the Iranians.In a final twist after the officer was rescued, two transport planes that would carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck at a remote base in Iran. Commanders decided to fly in three new planes to extract all the U.S. military personnel and the airman, and they blew up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into the hands of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).


The C-130s likely botched the landing very likely landing too hard popping tires or other mechanical failures cause it looks like 3 new C-130s flew in and landed without issues.

C-130 like the B-52 is going to be around for decades to come.

 

[koolio]

 

[Viet]

Am going to try...Again...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE.

Yes, but Iran airforce and radars is destroyed, otherwise such US aerial rescue operation is from impossible to 0.

 

[Optical216]

 

[Immortals]

Did the Americans take the mud with them when they evacuated?