Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[2ndstrike]

Trump (or better yet the “Deep state” led by Israel) is not ending this war until:

• Gives up all its uranium and not just the HEU portion
• Opens the strait of Hormuz

They will continue fighting until it becomes politically unbearable and only then they will come with compromise to Iran

Isn't that part of their 15 pointers? They want Iran to hand over all the EU and stop all enrichment activities.

 

[gambit]

Yes, but Iran airforce and radars is destroyed, otherwise such US aerial rescue operation is from impossible to 0.

That is why THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE...

 

[Hayabusa]

Manpads are not the same as an AK-47 that you just handover to civvies and then hope that "spray and pray" tactics achieve something. Manpads need trained crews and in the wrong and reckless hands can cause havoc to your own air forces.

You are right that it's not easy.

But then again, if this is not the time to train, then when? War has been progressing for more than a month now with no ceasefire in sight. My suggestion is to arm specific groups within them to have such weapons.

US will gain more confidence to infiltrate Iran as and when it likes, especially after this operation. Iran has to adapt fast again and not stay complacent.

 

[Jango]

You have to hand it, whatever the US admin does strategically put aside, the US military itself and US SOCOM in particular does have capabilities few, if any in the world have. Impressive op no matter which side you are on.

 

[Optical216]

Did the Americans take the mud with them when they evacuated?

There is a heli rotor in the sand too. Thy did not mention that in the official reports. Was a Blackhawk blown up as well? Because irgc public relations claims they destroyed it.

Whats happening here

 

[Himalayan]

Psychopaths! They are just showing victomhood orientation of their collective narcissism.

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

There is a heli rotor in the sand too. Thy did not mention that in the official reports. Was a Blackhawk blown up as well? Because irgc public relations claims they destroyed it.

Whats happening here

It's probably a propeller, C-130 all variants are turboprop

 

[Optical216]

You have to hand it, whatever the US admin does strategically put aside, the US military itself and US SOCOM in particular does have capabilities few, if any in the world have. Impressive op no matter which side you are on.

Only Chinese have capabilities they have

 

[Optical216]

It's probably a propeller, C-130 all variants are turboprop

Oh ok that makes sense

 

[Shams313]

That is why THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE...

Airforce is mandatory even it be a weakest one

 

[ShapurII]

Listen the HEU is a smoke screen propaganda story.

Because for all this focus on 400-600KG of HEU there is another 9000kg of enriched uranium of lower levels.

A hidden cascade or two of IR-9 centrifuges (20+ SWU) can enrich a 3.5% uranium to 90% in a week, maybe a bit more. IR-6 can do it under a month.

so you cannot seriously believe that the U.S. would take the 600kg HEU and then just decide to leave Iran 9000kg of enriched uranium and call it a day. That’s just propaganda they tell the masses who don’t know about the 9000kg or the nuclear fuel cycle.

You either take it all or you don’t take it at all.

I actually tried to run some calculations on your statement to get a ballpark of what can be achieved. Let's assume that each IR-9 has a SWU of 30 per year.

So, based on what I remembered and double-checked, each cascade of Iran's IR-1, IR-2 and IR-6 centrifuges included 164 machines, typically arranged in 30-40 stages and 2-8 machines in parallel.

Since SWU is approximately additive, for IR-9, the total SWU of such a hypothetical configuration would approximately be 4,920 SWU/year. You have two cascades, therefore you get 9,840 SWU/year.

Now you need to compute the total SWU required for enriching that uranium from 3.5% to 90%, assuming a typical tail assay of 0.25%. I cheated here and used Microsoft's copilot for this. The answer is 24,450 SWU. Hence, the time needed for enriching 3.5% LEU into 90% HEU is about 2.47 years. That's about 2 years, 5 months, 2 weeks and 5 days!

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That aside, even if we assume that Iran has the capability to enrich its LEU stockpile to HEU in less than a month, we'll still have the issue of converting our stockpile from UF6 gas into the uranium metal.

 

[Fatman17]

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Iran’s defences have been struck but they continue to fire back

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

@delta


oh gosh ... American's and Indians have one thing in common, they can take even the smallest of things and make them sound melodramatic (and make a movie out of it)

Well when one launches a war of aggression ... kill the other with impunity. Degrade and dehumanize them...

The LAST THING THEY SEEK OR WANT IS THEIR HUMANITY!!!

It is the psychology of a beast... a predator. Who's only aim is to preserve optics and nothing else.

Lost a plane worth $100 million that dispensed several million worth of munitions over Iran in a sortie running tens of thousands of dollars... to a rescue mission that almost touched a billion with it's losses to boot!

The takeaway... Orange wants a face saver! At the cost of America on behalf of zion...

Which means any ground incursions coming will be spec Ops... generating high optics and even a hand to play for orange... who as ever has none!

 

[Bahrami]

Listen my friend. And to every other member that are still talking about artesh this, airforce that.
Stop analyzing this conflict based on parameters of conventional warfare.
The fact of the matter is, Iran can not in a million years win a conventional war against the US. No country in the world can. It cant even win a single tactical battle in this war.

Had Iran wasted billions on airforce and going toe to toe with the US airforce, that airforce would have been gone within a day or two. Its just that simple.
Iran is not fighting on US terms. It is fighting an assymetrical battle. A long war of attrition to bleed the enemy economically and politically. It is doing so masterfully by ballistic missiles and drones. Future historians and military analysts will look back at this war for what it was. A masterclass in strategic brilliance by the Iranian state.
Off course, it will come at a huge cost. But the future will be secured, once this war is over. Mark my words.

Iran will win this war, but not based on the metrics you intuitivily think.

Iran did spend billions on the air force over the years. We developed like countles A2A missiles. Take the Fakour-90 as example.

Iran did spend billions in its navy over the years. We build an entire navy, so it can be sunk in ports?

That is my point. It was all a waste, at least in the context of a defensive war.

 

[Gripen9]