Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

There is a big difference between a nuclear weapon and a nuclear weapons capability!

I agree. So why you keep the oil and eggs for making a omelette when you won't do It.
To me sounds odd.
I agree also during a looong time Islamic Republic just kept in the refrigerator this capability, but we're all sure that Israel and US won't never let Islamic Republic to hold the oil, and became a military power in the Middle East. Let's be honest, they want another Sisi, Mohamed bin Salman or Abdalá, just another dollar oil trader dominated by Israel, which is the brand of US in MENA Region. So the only way to break this trend is making the omelette.

 

[Majestic]

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[Master Chief]

My speculation here is that Iran has prepared for a ground invasion owing to its geography instead of venturing out in the open and get picked much easily. Which also explains a deeper and resilient defensive setup.

Though they'll have to go on the offensive in the region to disable/dissuade any perch available to mount an attack against Iran.

Fully agree. This is perhaps the only reasonable tactic they can achieve in such asymmetry. The ability to strike enemy "muster points" in the Gulf nations or in the adjacent waters is absolutely crucial.

Someone here mentioned that Saddam was undone because he couldn't stop the Coalition from doing exactly this - sounds about right.

 

[KingQamaR]

The only thing I can think of in this case is ...
"A general can refuse the order since it's an incursion not declared war... And any further action such as USA of nukes account towards escalation ladder requires approval of Congress because that would come in declaration of WAR"..
It's not disobedience but standing up for constitution.

Unfortunately brother, what’s happened to American Military is now full of suckers and losers. 12 US Army Generals, including An Army chief of staff were removed last week by drunken P Hegseth probably for refusing to commit more war crimes. I do believe US top brass are sworn to disobey illegal orders. Like you say, And now is the time to have the strength to do that. Bc Trump is desperate his next move is to Nuke Iran as he doesn’t have any other plan.

 

[Starlord]

My prediction if the ceasefire is reject entirely:

Strategic weapons used against Iranian infrastructure (power plants, missile and drone production facilities)

Greater SEAD and DEAD ops around Qeshm and Larak islands, setting up for an invasion

Delta operations around Iran as they target key offensive Iranian launch sites and setting up a basis to acquire and relocate Iranian enriched uranium stockpiles. Or atleast attempt to. What happened on Sunday did prove the Americans can conduct CSAR operations and set up FOBs/FARPs with relative ease within Iran

I wouldn't call it "Relative Ease" it was a operation that could turn into a disaster, to create a base to extract that enrich Uranium they need a lot more forces, and more planes/force mean more prone to a high casualty disaster.

 

[MirageV3ff]

I wouldn't call it "Relative Ease" it was a operation that could turn into a disaster, to create a base to extract that enrich Uranium they need a lot more forces, and more planes/force mean more prone to a high casualty disaster.

Question is if America is willing to absorb that high of a human cost. They don't care much about losses of assets, they can absorb that kind of damage.

The American may also have assistance on the ground from traitors. There are plenty of those that do resist the current regime in Iran

 

[Taimoor]

Looks like Iran isn't interested in a deal. On top of that it keep attacking Saudi Arabia with who we have defence pact. Pakistan is running out of options here, farewell Iran.

That deal was between Saudis and unelected usurpers in Pakistan, It has got ZERO mandate behind it. Pakistan will not be sticking its own neck out for Saudis if things between Iran and GCC spiral out of control.

 

[Majestic]

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Final hours approaching fast. I think Mad man hits target before expiry of dead line. Targets locked lets pray for All Muslims and People of Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

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Now the users here who disagreed with me on my comment about the difference between the Pakistani system and the Pakistani people can see I was not wrong.

Saudi Arabia is a belligerent in this war. They are constantly pushing Trump to finish Iran, and you can see whose side Shahbaz Sharif is on.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Unfortunately brother, what’s happened to American Military is now full of suckers and losers. 12 US Army Generals, including An Army chief of staff were removed last week by drunken P Hegseth probably for refusing to commit more war crimes. I do believe US top brass are sworn to disobey illegal orders. Like you say, And now is the time to have the strength to do that. Bc Trump is desperate his next move is to Nuke Iran as he doesn’t have any other plan.

There won't be any nuclear attack on Iran by the US. If such a plan was being discussed, you can bet your last dollar it would have been leaked.

Given all of the disinformation and other crap out there, I'm surprised no one has leaked a phony order regarding nuclear weapons to sew chaos amongst the American public and the world.

 

[KingQamaR]

Pakistan should give Iran a Nuke. To stop Armageddon coming to a Muslim country iran.

 

[Master Chief]

This is going to the brink, but that is what very high level negotiations are like, both US and Iran know this is not worth the price now.

My guess is a very last minute deal.

The alternative is too horrific to imagine, and the thought of Saudi and PAF jets bombing Iran along with US and Israel truly sickens me to the pit of my stomach

PAF jets will not "bomb Iran" under any conceivable scenario.

 

[ShapurII]

There won't be any nuclear attack on Iran by the US. If such a plan was being discussed, you can bet your last dollar it would have been leaked.

How can you be so certain about that?

Also, Tucker Carlson clearly talked about using WMDs on Iran. Carlson does have a lot of MAGA connections.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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Final hours approaching fast. I think Mad man hits target before expiry of dead line. Targets locked lets pray for All Muslims and People of Iran.

Why all Muslims?

The conflict is between Iran and Israel / US. The US is not targeting Muslims. Not even here in the US.

 

[Taimoor]

What do you expect from them ? Declare war on US ?.,... drink cold water and chill

Declare war? what are you smoking? they are in the middle of it.