Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

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Hitting railways helps to stop logistics across the country and may affect Iran's ability to respond to invasion at specific points, but, they are also very easy and cheap to repair.

This is the clearest signal that a land invasion is about to take place.

 

[Majestic]

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[lightning f57]

trumpy is huffing and puffing as his cornered, his trying to scare Iran into submission.

Lets look at the options rationally,

1) Nuke - would dropping a nuke stop this war? if so where would they drop it? this would also be unprecedented and will make the world a much much more dangerous place you will have many nations rushing for the bomb. There is no guarantee either the IRGC would stop fighting even if nuked. So I think this talk of nukes is abit over blown, but one can not discount it given you have a lunatic in the WH.

2) Infrastructure bombing - I think its more likely a carpet bombing campaign against Irans economic, transport and power infrastructure will take place. This is to cripple Iran and give severe pain to the Iranian people. These are typical zionist nazis tactics which failed in Gaza, in Lebanon and will fail here too. IRGC will not open SOH even if all key infrastructure is destroyed. This will lead to all GCC key infrastructure being destroyed and Israel will be targeted too.

3) Ground invasion - this could happen along with point 2 above, first to soften around certain areas and invade. This will also not force the SOH to open and if they try to do it by boots on the ground they will take high losses. Other thing trying to secure the nuclear material could take weeks thats even assuming they know where it is and they will take high losses again.

All 3 of these options on the face of it look like a complete failure for trumpy and the US, only viable one is pursuing meaningful peace with tempered demands not surrender demands.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

that "deal" is total capitulation.

Iran cannot build a bomb. They should have tested one like 30 years ago. Now? It will never be allowed to have one. It what it is.

 

[ShapurII]

You’re missing the point. “Another punch” doesn’t always mean military revenge. Japan and Germany are actually perfect examples of why survival matters more than destruction. Both were completely defeated, yet today they are amng the world’s largest economies, technologically advanced, and globally influential. They didn’t need to fire another shot at the US to regain power and dignity.

Japan was already quite advanced before World War II. Large parts of mathematics, physics and chemistry in the 19th century were developed by the Japanese and the Germans. Germany was single-handedly defeating all European powers before the US and the Soviet Union got involved. Iran is nowhere close to those two countries in WWII.

Power is not just military. It is economic strength, technological capability, global influence, and internal stability. By staying alive and rebuilding, they positioned themselves as major players again. If they had chosen total destruction over survival, they would not exist in any meaningful way today.

The point is simple: if a state destroys itself in the name of resistance, it loses every future option. Survival preserves leverage. Dead states don’t resist, rebuild, or influence anything.

I don't disagree with any of this, but for this to happen, the Islamic Republic must end. The deal you guys are talking about is not about that. It's completely different. It is about delaying the inevitable, while giving the Americans more time to prepare for the inevitable.

Whatever is going to happen, whether we are going to win this war as the Islamic Republic or not, it should happen now.

 

[Homajon]

An Indian on twitter is your source?
That 'rule' you mentioned may have may have played out, it's not the rule you are making it out to be.

So you seriously want me to give you formal rule written in international law?

 

[Bengal71]

Honestly, if Iran loses this war, my only consolation will be that we will turn anti-Russia and anti-China and will act 100% against their interests in every situation by being the best US lapdog ever.

You can see how China and Russia have been dead silent about Trump's genocidal threats in the last 3 days.

Russia doesn't have capability, neither the will.

China has the capability but not the will.

Did Iran have a deep and trusted allied relationship ever with China? I don't think so. Iran never looked for allies, Iran only engaged in transactions.

This is one of the F ups of IRI leadership in addition to not building the nukes.

 

[ShapurII]

What do you expect from them ? Declare war on US ?.,... drink cold water and chill

Issue a statement condemning his genocidal threats, at least?

They cannot even issue a diplomatic statement now?

As I said, I would happily live in a US puppet state if it means our resources will be employed to hurt China and Russia. Russia doesn't even deserve to exist as a unified country.

 

[Optical216]

Russia doesn't have capability, neither the will.

China has the capability but not the will.

Did Iran have a deep and trusted allied relationship ever with China? I don't think so. Iran never looked for allies, Iran only engaged in transactions.

This is one of the F ups of IRI leadership in addition to not building the nukes.

i think u need to be in proximity with china to get full benefit there are only 2 actual allies of china 1. Pakistan 2. North Korea

 

[Haz]

They are hitting railway bridges too. And they are doing that to stop large troop movements in Iran. It's a prelude to a ground invasion.

Damn I thought it was the railway tracks. Yes, the bridges are a serious problem if that's the case, that's not good. This guy has truly gone mad and doesn't know what he's getting us all into, someone needs to take another attempt on him.

 

[ShapurII]

Russia doesn't have capability, neither the will.

China has the capability but not the will.

Did Iran have a deep and trusted allied relationship ever with China? I don't think so. Iran never looked for allies, Iran only engaged in transactions.

This is one of the F ups of IRI leadership in addition to not building the nukes.

Iraq, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Sudan, Vietnam; do I need to say more? Give me a break.

 

[MirageV3ff]

My prediction if the ceasefire is reject entirely:

Strategic weapons used against Iranian infrastructure (power plants, missile and drone production facilities)

Greater SEAD and DEAD ops around Qeshm and Larak islands, setting up for an invasion

Delta operations around Iran as they target key offensive Iranian launch sites and setting up a basis to acquire and relocate Iranian enriched uranium stockpiles. Or atleast attempt to. What happened on Sunday did prove the Americans can conduct CSAR operations and set up FOBs/FARPs with relative ease within Iran

 

[mythbuster]

Issue a statement condemning his genocidal threats, at least?

They cannot even issue a diplomatic statement now?

As I said, I would happily live in a US puppet state if it means our resources will be employed to hurt China and Russia. Russia doesn't even deserve to exist as a unified country.

I am lost , don't know how to answer your post ! I have empathy and anger running parallel.

 

[Starlord]

Iran cannot build a bomb. They should have tested one like 30 years ago. Now? It will never be allowed to have one. It what it is.

I think best time for Iranian nukes was between 2001 to 2010. America was pretty busy with Afghanistan/Iraq and Arabs were having time of their lives with Arab Spring, Iran may have got some trouble or maybe few strikes but with nukes secure they would not have seen this day.