Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Prime Minister of Pakistan:

Diplomatic efforts aimed at a peaceful settlement of the war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly and effectively

- I sincerely ask President Trump to extend the deadline by two weeks.

Pakistan is asking its Iranian brothers to open the Strait of Hormuz for two similar weeks as a gesture of goodwill.
There are no negotiations, Iran has already confirmed that. This "two-week deadline" story is because the "end of civilization" attack is a bluff, and it needs to be postponed. If Iran ever suffers a nuclear attack, those who attacked will receive a proportional attack in return.
 
If Israel is now using David’s Sling interceptors produced in 2026, their air defences are in a terrible state

DS is already their back up interceptor if the missile can’t be intercepted by THAAD or Arrow

Can expect <50% interception rate within 1-2 weeks (mostly from US SM-3 and a few lucky Iron Dome shots).
Do you think US/Israel will allow such a time to arrive where they dont have any interceptors left?
They will definately take some drastic steps before they run out of interceptors.
 
ironically we are still mentally associated with USD, i would suggest change it to Yaun :)
Yup give all the power to one people under XI... One color one race under communism we all stand in divisible under the premiereship of XI......
I don't have anything against the man himself or China, however it's too much power in one man's hand with no corridor to lobby...
Be careful what you wish for... Can't shake of little Israel dominating everything, how the heck will you do that if China's next premier turned out to be opposite of XI... FIVE FINGERS ARE DEFINITELY PART OF THE HAND BUT NOT THE SAME... REMEMBER THAT...
IF IT'S HARD WITH US WHICH IS MERGER OF THE PLANET VS ONE AS JET LI MOVIE SUGGESTED.
I WISH CHINA THE BEST FOR THEIR COUNTRY HOWEVER WORLD RESPONSIBILITY IS TOO MUCH TO HANDLE...
 
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The reformists and Larijani pragmatics won.

Shame. IRGC could have lead the country to greatness, but the elite classes didn’t want to face hardship like the rest of Iranians did.
 
For some odd reason, the entire chagrin is at Pakistan very unfairly. I can guarantee, sometime down the road, Pakistan will be lamenting with others "See, we told you all".
Its not so much Pakistan but Sharif.

By holding the straits Iran is hurting American allies including Europeans who are complaining at American actions as economy suffering. The other day in UK I had to pay I think £35 extra to fill up my car. .

People in garage cursing Trump and Jews and if they doing that in UK I am sure Americans are doing same.

earlier today Trump said at press conference words to the effect if it was me I would stay there but I know that's not popular and you dont want.

Opening straights would remove the pressure on Trump
 
Pakistan isn’t a one trick pony & there are multiple ways of skinning a cat.

Mr Shehbaz is doing his job. We don’t want Saudi oil fields attacked & we know it’s Israel that’s sabotaging our efforts. We have a presence in Saudi, we can increase our presence even more. We must adopt an aggressive posture towards Israel & use our assets to surveil & snoop on Israel & provide Iran with the updates in return for no attacks on Saudi oil fields.
Pakistan may end up doing some defensive operations. That is to fly inside Saudi airspace and shoot down projectiles flying towards Saudi infrastructure.
 
Iran should still deliver the strike package it had prepared for Israel

Assuming it is a deadline extension and not a ceasefire

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There is no package for Israel. Iran have shown all their cards and didn't even did 0.01% of damage what Israel have done to Iran. Because Iranian missile at that distance are not very accurate so cannot hit strategic assets of Israel.

Israel only fear nuclear bomb.
 
When Indians Attacked Pakistan in that skirmish we had recently and a third country had said stand down cos we dont want Pakistanis to die what would we have said? would we have stood down?

You can't compare india with the US, or Israel for that matter. Besides, we did stand down, after just 4 days, and even then it was a limp wristed response.
 
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This is what the government is giving up in order to secure a temporary peace while the CIA and Mossad work to start the next round of “protests” in the country.

Next time this government won’t have the people behind it again. Once in a lifetime chance they are squandering.
 
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What the hell are these talks about a ceasefire?
They have already bombed bridges and train tracks. If they really, really want something, it is exactly what Iran should not give them.

We accepted the Gaza sacrifice to open the world's eyes.
Now we have to accept the Iran sacrifice to defeat those monsters.
(Easy for me to say from afar.)

The only language the uncivilised idiots in the West understand right now is power.
 
Iran is now acting like Iraq during the First Gulf War. Iraq had a powerful military at that time, but its overconfidence led to its downfall. After the First Gulf War, Iraq never recovered and became a shadow of its former self, even though it sits on huge oil reserves.

If everything is destroyed, Iran will take ages to recover if it ever recover, while it cannot inflict comparable damage on Israel, the US, or the Gulf countries. In contrast, those countries would recover very quickly compared to Iran.

Iran has proved its point. Now its time to cool things otherwise this rhetoric will not take Iran anywhere.
But Americans are not offering an off ramp their 15 points are tantamount to asking Iranians to surrender disarm etc
 
Its not so much Pakistan but Sharif.

By holding the straits Iran is hurting American allies including Europeans who are complaining at American actions as economy suffering. The other day in UK I had to pay I think £300-£35 extra to fill up my car. .

People in garage cursing Trump and Jews and if they doing that in UK I am sure Americans are doing same.

earlier today Trump said at press conference words to the effect if it was me I would stay there but I know that's not popular and you dont want.

Opening straights would remove the pressure on Trump
Why single out Sharif? What has he done which is not aligned to Pakistani state policy to broker peace?

Everything that is being done to the rest of the world is "temporary" pain. Unfortunately for Iran, the damage to its infrastructure will be far more devastating and longer lasting.

At the end of the day Iran and the Americans will do what they must. Nobody can blame Pakistan for trying its hardest to get to a ceasefire and peace talks.
 
The reformists and Larijani pragmatics won.

Shame. IRGC could have lead the country to greatness, but the elite classes didn’t want to face hardship like the rest of Iranians did.
Mixed messages going around but imo Trump never meant to follow through on this threats and was going to extend from his end claiming a deal was closer and he's giving time for allies regardless

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Urgent | Spokesman for the Seal of the Prophets Headquarters: We will continue at an intensified pace to bombard the military and economic infrastructure of Israel and America in the region.

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