Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Wouldn’t count your chickens before they hatch, still have to have them sign the deal.

US still wants zero enrichment, dismantlement of nuclear of facilities, no HEU on Iranian soil.

 

[RescueRanger]

This really looks like a timeout to have some electrolytes before the next round starts.

I love that film so much.

 

[HAIDER]

This really looks like a timeout to have some electrolytes before the next round starts.

I doubt the US has already exhausted all its major assets. Now it's billing time for GCC. Trump may get in trouble, impeachment, or anything else ...

 

[Oscar]

No doubt, Israel badly damaged the US superpower status, and the US lost a lot.

Of all the people I did not think I would consider Tucker Carlson having the right idea - nor the self proclaimed youtube professor - but the idea that Israel needs the US out of the ME as security guarantor for ME to really set its greater Israel project in motion now makes sense.

Lets say this does lead to a US withdrawal from the GCC or reduction everywhere except Israel - then you will have basically a split within the GCC with a Saudi bloc and a Qatari bloc with various guarantors in Pakistan, Turkey, potentially India for UAE and Israeli government (with its far-right elements actively promoting the Greater Israel map) could pursue a strategy of incremental annexation. This wouldn't necessarily be a sudden, large-scale land grab. Instead, it could involve:

• Rapid expansion of settlements and de facto annexation of large parts of the West Bank under the guise of security concerns.
• Creating crises (e.g., along the Syrian or Lebanese border) that provide pretexts for military intervention and the establishment of buffer zones.
• Taking advantage of instability in neighboring countries (like Jordan or parts of Saudi Arabia) to exert influence or even claim territory.
• With Egypt facing internal challenges, Israel could increase its presence and control in the Sinai Peninsula, citing security threats.

They wont achieve the whole map but would be able to create a greater security envelope for themselves - Iran is already weakened enough to focus on rebuilding first while GCC have to spend a lot of money on investment in their oil networks.

 

[Falcon29]

I doubt the US has already exhausted all its major assets. Now it's billing time for GCC. Trump may get in trouble, impeachment, or anything else ...

Cute of you to think GCC will pay for anything. It's not their war. Go demand from Jews and Israel your money back.

 

[PakSword]

If the sanctions are lifted from Iran permanently, buying oil from Iran will be $2m cheaper per tanker than from certain GCC countries.

 

[PakSword]

Of all the people I did not think I would consider Tucker Carlson having the right idea - nor the self proclaimed youtube professor - but the idea that Israel needs the US out of the ME as security guarantor for ME to really set its greater Israel project in motion now makes sense.

Lets say this does lead to a US withdrawal from the GCC or reduction everywhere except Israel - then you will have basically a split within the GCC with a Saudi bloc and a Qatari bloc with various guarantors in Pakistan, Turkey, potentially India for UAE and Israeli government (with its far-right elements actively promoting the Greater Israel map) could pursue a strategy of incremental annexation. This wouldn't necessarily be a sudden, large-scale land grab. Instead, it could involve:

• Rapid expansion of settlements and de facto annexation of large parts of the West Bank under the guise of security concerns.
• Creating crises (e.g., along the Syrian or Lebanese border) that provide pretexts for military intervention and the establishment of buffer zones.
• Taking advantage of instability in neighboring countries (like Jordan or parts of Saudi Arabia) to exert influence or even claim territory.
• With Egypt facing internal challenges, Israel could increase its presence and control in the Sinai Peninsula, citing security threats.

They wont achieve the whole map but would be able to create a greater security envelope for themselves - Iran is already weakened enough to focus on rebuilding first while GCC have to spend a lot of money on investment in their oil networks.

Sir what an amazing post.

 

[Watandar]

This ^ sheesh.. The copium is still large in this thread.

"Copium" would for the US that launched an un-necessary war for the sake of Israel and the GCC and failed to meet all its strategic objectives, finally throwing in the towel. For Iran to go toe to toe with the US and Israel and survive is a huge victory.

Now the US Navy can sail away all those big useless ships.

 

[Al-Zakir]

If Irani welcome the ceasefire then non-Irani needs to shut the F up. It's easy to talk big and push others to fight for your self centered interests.

You want to destroy zion then stand side by side and fight together otherwise shut up.

 

[Fatman17]

Burnol is on the way. Relax

 

[The SC]

 

[Immortals]

 

[BigMela2onin]

Iran attacked them in the beginning multiple times

They helped mediate and likely demanded such condition themselves or pitched the idea itself

And for US to make it look less embarrassing it included Oman in it

Iran denied attacking that Omani port.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Nethanyahu probably on his way to Washington again.

I have a strong feeling this will fall apart even before the two weeks are up.

Trump will see all the media coverage about him losing and he will snap. Cannot trust a retard like him. Plus the Epstein files.

For Iran - they agreed to their 10 points. At home front they can show the people that they tried for peace for the people of Iran. So if US Israel breaks it again, then the people will rally with the government more than ever. Win win situation for Iran politically.

 

[Al-Zakir]

If the sanctions are lifted from Iran permanently, buying oil from Iran will be $2m cheaper per tanker than from certain GCC countries.

Pakistan should connect to the gas pipeline already built in Iranian side. It will be so much easier and less expensive for Pakistan.