Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

India is not even a sidekick in this ceasefire. They won't be able to do anything.

Right.
And imagine being diplomatically beaten by a 'Dalaal' (Pimp) nation like Pakistan!

 

[ShapurII]

You sound exactly like a depressed pahlavist on Twitter. ICJ and all these fancy international watchdogs like IAEA or regimes like NPT are nothing but extended arms and stooges of the people we just gripped by the ballz. You think Russians, Chinese, USSR, Nazi Germany, DPRK, Israel, Trumps US, NATO gives shit about these "international institutions" ? They are mere Zio-Neocon mafia run control arms over weaker countries and nothing so if you sit with them on bargain table after strategically gripping their nutsack in a 40 day war that was supposed to end in 2-3 days, do understand these institutions do not matter anymore because you are talking to the head directly. They removed the sanctions on IRI during the war and have accepted the strait toll in case you have noticed. This kind of mentality you are talking about is what got us Rohani, Zarif, Larijani types who got lost in IAEA, ICJ, UNSC, JCPOA etc instead of focusing on deterrence and strength which world actually runs on. Why are these people scumbing to demands that not even Soleimani-Khamenei's Iran succeeded in getting accepted now ?

Qatar also announced kicking out US from their soil, which IRI has been demanding for decades, they were the first one to declare neutrality during the war. They might very well want to be part of IRI toll regime over Strait like Oman. Its 100 Billion USD a year.

Here are some facts for you:

1. The Iranian parliament is yet to vote on the bill for leaving the NPT, even though it was proposed with the highest urgency.
2. Israel has hit the Lavan refinery and the Siri island after the ceasefire came into effect. Iran has reported these incidents as "explosions of unknown origin".
3. Qatar has already called Iran "an aggressor" and has called on Iran to pay reparations.
4. Israel is still advancing in the south of Lebanon and says Lebanon is not included in the ceasefire.
5. Trump has already contradicted his earlier post on TS, rejecting Iran's 10-point proposal as a base for negotiations.
6. Kushner and Witkoff will attend the US negotiations with Iran.
7. Just in: JD Vance says Trump's patience with Iranians is over, i.e. he is threatening us. He says Iranians should not underestimate "President Trump".

And all of this has happened less than 12 hours after accepting the ceasefire!

Per Trump, China helped them convince Iran to accept the ceasefire. So, we were most likely pushed to accept the ceasefire by China and Russia against the wish of our armed forces. They probably made it clear to us that we should either accept the ceasefire, or the resolution would be passed at the UNSC.

They didn't lift the sanctions on Iran. They allowed their allies to buy our oil to control oil prices. That is completely different from lifting sanctions. The US primary, secondary and UNSC sanctions are still in place.

Zarif talked about our terms of surrender and it happened a few days after that. Do you still think that the IRGC calls the shots?

 

[SABRE]

Israel is not the only one who might want to subvert the meeting. Let's be realistic here..

I agree. Was just avoiding saying anything.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

What goal US has achieved other than murdering hundreds of children and killing couples of Iranian politicians who had been easily replaced by some even more anti US leaders?

The United States has completed a Hollywood rescue-themed script.

The script is called 'F-15E, C-130, A-10, Little Bird, Black Hawk Crash Together'.

 

[TallGuy]

Gen. Majid Mousavi of IRGCASF is to Missile and drone Warfare what Patton and Rommel were to Armored warfare.

Completely agreed with you on this!

 

[Taimoor]

More power to people like Tucker. They are doing real damage to this stranglehold of zionists over America.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We all fucked up terribly, unfortunately. Iran, China, Russia. This isn't going to end here. The Western powers have already launched WWIII, but it's cold for now. It may flare up and get heated at some point in the not too-distant future.

It is indeed not good as China has already received the chips war and covid as the gifts during Trump's first term.

It is only a matter of time it becomes a full blown WWIII with the US problems might be much bigger than most people have realized.

 

[Bengal71]

Right.
And imagine being diplomatically beaten by a 'Dalaal' (Pimp) nation like Pakistan!

I don't know about dalal status of Pakistan or India. But I observerd that wins/losses between India and Pakistan are somewhat evenly distributed since 1947.

Only few years back Indians were 'winning' because of their strong ties with Americans, they were Quad allies etc and Pakistan was on the backfoot. Table has turned now, enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[SABRE]

For those who know

I don't. Please explain.

 

[Meengla]

Looks like ceasefire not able to complete its 14 day life..

Probably because Iran's 'mosaic' military setup where individual commanders are not fully in sync due to the intense war on Iran. It should be sorted out soon.
Even the NY Times is calling it Trump's 'off-ramp'. The ceasefire is real but will take time to fully establish. However, Israel should not be allowed to getaway by taking south Lebanon; that a key factor.

 

[KAL-EL]

I agree. Was just avoiding saying anything.

well can I certainly understand that..

 

[ToddE]

Looks like ceasefire not able to complete its 14 day life..

Takes days usually for such large wars to die down. Some argue that with mosaic doctrine it will be hard to implement it. Same for the other side. Its not one collective head on any side.

 

[Majestic]

looks like they are all in waiting mode.

 

[Bengal71]

I am beginning to believe Omanis are the smartest among Persian Gulf Arabs. Quiet, cold planning types. Now they will enjoy the billions from toll and full IRI (and Yemeni) cover all for free, still in good books of US as well. Most stupid and gullible are Saoodis, UAE, Bahrainis who were sold the idea that hosting Israeli and US, EU military/intel on their soil will benefit them somehow. Literally their CIA planted royal families boosted about hosting Israeli intel on their soil against Iran openly. What did that achieve for them?

Yes but are the Omanis getting 50% of the revenues? If so, that would be to many percent for doing nothing.

 

[ShapurII]

I don't. Please explain.

That's Valerian, a Roman emperor that was taken captive by Shapur I, a Sassanid King.
The other servant is Philip the Arab, another Roman Emperor.

The Inscription (Naghsh-e Rostam) depicts one of the greatest victories of Persians against the Romans.