Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Pakistan pull off a master class in Diplomacy and probably saved thousands of lives, destruction of ME and countless other things. It is astonishing to see that there are less 3 dozen pages on this thread acknowleding the Historic Feat Pakistan has achieved. Out of 8128 pages of this thread, 8000 is mainly members spreading useless fake news. But what really matters is NOT being discussed. What a offal and pathetic attitude to have. whether or not you like Asim Munir, he has pulled of something many world leaders can only dream of.


Surah Ali 'Imran 3:26
“O Allah, Owner of Sovereignty. You grant sovereignty to whom You will, and You strip sovereignty from whom you will. You honor whom you will, and You humiliate whom you will."
 
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Iran gave up its greatest leverage card for nothing but a pinkie promise and to maybe take “some” concessions into account during the next 2 weeks. In the end, the Mossad agents Jared and Witkoff will once again demand zero enrichment and full turnover of HEU and no missile development for a decade. And this government will parade it as a win.

This is the most retarded government I have ever seen in my life and I live in America which is saying something.
Let us see what happens. An analyst I respect a lot is Trita Parsi and he had mentioned in an interview couple of weeks back that he was hoping Iran does not "overplay" its card. So it's possible Iran cashed its card at the right moment. You are also overlooking the fact that the increasing availability and lowering price of oil helps a LOT of countries in this world who will now be more amenable to Iran as a country.
 
If i was ghalibaf i wouild do this



1. Both america and Iran can control strait and split profits 50/50 both make money and business and get rich
2. In return America moves aside and lets iran and israel duke it out


In the April 10th meeting


Why should the americans be allowed this? Why should they get 50%? The straights of Hormouz are NOT their country, territory or region. Why should they get ANYTHING from Iran especially since they have murdered Iraninan civilians and small children.
 
The Pakistani ceasefire gives both Iran and the US a way out without having seen to back down from each other, and I guess both will claim that and overall victory. Trump will claim that his rhetoric and threats before the ceasefire brought the Iranians to the table, while the Iranians will claim they defeated the patience and risk tolerance of the US.

But the joker in the pack will always be the lunacy and bipolarism of Trump, that guy is certifiably deranged.
Any positive action to stop the war and maintain peace is worthy of respect and support.

Although there are huge differences between the United States and Iran, the diplomatic efforts of Pakistan and other countries offer a hope for peace and a platform where both sides can sit down and negotiate with confidence.

At the very least, Israel does not have the courage to bomb Pakistan's capital, Islamabad.
 


These little baby kingdoms should learn how to behave in presence of elders and should know their place now. But obviously a society rich with presence of zionists and terrorist hindutvadiz is bound to behave like misbehaving idiots.

These idiots have spread nothing but chaos in Muslim countries.
 
Lots of people are saying it’s a pause for Israel to re-arm re-load. But, How much could US and Israel rearm in two weeks? The depletion of interceptors is not a matter of logistics it’s a matter of availability and that is probably the case with most of the US long range precision stand off munitions.
As I explained before, this 'pause' is necessary for the Israelis to deal with Hezbollah in the meantime while the attacks on Iran are simply postponed.

It is no coincidence that Beirut gets destroyed as we speak. Being an ally of Iran is dangerous.
 
Total Iranian surrender brokered by Pakistan and China.
Your remarks amount to undermining diplomatic relations between Iran and other countries and are not for the benefit of Iran.

First of all, such negotiations must be agreed upon by both the United States and Iran. China, Pakistan, and other countries have no power to force Iran to compromise.

Secondly, the end of any war is accompanied by the signing of a ceasefire agreement. This is simply to provide an opportunity for a peaceful resolution of the war.

Most importantly, you are in the United States—can you feel the suffering of the Iranian people? Many Iranians in China choose to return to Iran to defend their country; may I ask, have you gone back?

Your remarks are just like Trump’s, extremely irresponsible.
 

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