Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Any chance, that israeli discriminatory law for Palestinians could be brought up and discussed during these negotiations israel forced to revoke it. They tend to murder (hang) many innocent Palestinians and pretend it is well within and according to their law.
Give you a little example, people in the West Bank totally live under apartheid rule. Palestinians in US tell their family stories....which are unbelievable. They have been treated worse than a stray dog....Israeli army raise concerete walls in front of their house at will....they can't do anything. Kill and disappear them, Israel is a lawless land for Arabs and Muslims. On top " chosen people " ...craziness.
 
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Europe and NATO needs to be careful on "policing" the straits "within days" or "until" the conflict is permanently resolved.

If the Americans start attacking Iran again, what will the Europeans do in "policing" the straits? They would get caught in the middle. Stay out of this NATO/Europe. Trump cannot be trusted at all.

They are trying to setup a "group" aimed at forcing entry into the Gulf through coercion. They intend to do that through pressure.
 
Okay lets assume Iranians had a nuclear weapon tested and ready, may be this war could have been avoided (this has proven wrong in Pakistan vs india case, the conflict can still exist in some form and shape without escalation to dooms day scenario). But how would the region including Pakistan react to that presence? 2nd Islamic bomb? Or just a Persian bomb? It will certainly be perceived as a threat to the immediate region, given a chance Iranians would act like bullies (they did fire missiles at nuclear Pakistan). We cannot ignore that Iranians did not and still do not have a very rosy relationship with other Muslim countries in the region. Iran and its sympathizers can blame the countries for having US bases but why not share that blame as Iran presented a reason for those bases to be there, have they ever given any thought to that and try to correct those reasons?


The Iranian state clowning around on religious merits of a nuclear bomb! I don’t understand why there is a debate around this by there clergy. The only reason to enrich uranium past civilian needs is, and the only reason to be coy about any nuclear activity, is so that you can build a working nuclear bomb. There’s no other application.
 
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Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif held a telephone conversation with H.E. Nawaf Salam, Prime Minister of Lebanon earlier this afternoon.
The Prime Minister strongly condemned Israel’s ongoing aggression against Lebanon and expressed condolences over the loss of thousands of precious lives in these hostilities.
While thanking Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif for his peace efforts, the Prime Minister of Lebanon sought Pakistan’s support for bringing an immediate end to the attacks targeting Lebanon and its people.
 
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US MQ-4C drone likely downed over Persian Gulf

Possibly by friendly fire from Saudis

$200-300m loss if confirmed

Is it really that expensive… 🫣
 
Authorities in Pakistan locked down the capital Islamabad in ‌anticipation of the war's first peace talks, cutting off all access to a 2-mile zone around the five-star luxury Serena Hotel. Both the U.S. and Iranian delegations are expected to stay at the hotel, which told all guests to check out until Sunday as it had been "requisitioned" for "an important event" https://reut.rs/4mgwtAO
VP will stay in the American embassy , it's well equipped and well furnished for his stay .
 
BREAKING: Iran was on the verge of responding to the Israeli ceasefire violation last night, but Pakistan intervened and conveyed messages regarding U.S. control over Israel — Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister

Despite that, Israel continues to bomb Lebanon & is now threatening to occupy cities in Southern Lebanon

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English translation:
Lebanese Prime Minister:

We requested from Pakistan to include Lebanon in the ceasefire agreement.
 
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“U.S. assurances Israel will be restrained”

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Iran purposely keeping its head in the sand because they want to avoid fighting again. Looks like unless Mojtaba is bombed by Israel, this ceasefire will hold. Iran is back to being anti-war again.
 
It sounds very thrilling and sexy , however, the logistics of doing it ain't that easy..
You will need AWACs deep in Iranian territory along with refuelers....what if Israel sends F 35 , do you think you can beat them ?

I already said send fighters "if required". Only VIP transport is enough. As most members already agreeing and saying that Israelis are not that stupid to hit at our VIPaircraft carrying diplomatic delegation.

I wasn't saying to go and do a war / BVR shoot out with Israelis.
 
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Iran purposely keeping its head in the sand because they want to avoid fighting again. Looks like unless Mojtaba is bombed by Israel, this ceasefire will hold. Iran is back to being anti-war again.

Calm down Darius the second , you have a rusted sword and broken bow .
 
Iran purposely keeping its head in the sand because they want to avoid fighting again.

Exactly! If Iran really honestly wanted to hit back at Israel, it could have done so. It had all legal & moral rights to do so. Pakistan didn't took away the codes of Iranian missiles. Putting blame on others for their own inaction is appalling. Pakistan is asking ALL SIDES to abide by ceasefire. Israel is not complaining to Pakistan but carrying out its attacks. I wonder why Iranian deputy FM is complaining on Pakistan for their own inaction.

Iranian officials should be honest, if they don't want war or if they are getting short on missiles and want to avoid further killings and bombardment of Tehran, if they want to stop further assassinations of leaders then they should just tell clearly that these are actual reasons, instead saying that "oh we are not responding because Pakistan asked us to do so. "
 

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