Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

Turkey



...(continue)... In particular, the international community must remain alert to potential acts of sabotage by Israel and be prepared to respond appropriately.

With Erdogan about to fade into the oblivion because of ageing, Hakan Fidan would be my choice to be the next Turkish leader.

 

[iron shrapnel]

"Just IN: Pakistani fighter jets spotted over Bandar Abbas, Iran, to escort the Iranian delegation to Pakistan safely. —

Pakistan Air Force has established a "protective shield" across Iran and Persian Gulf supported by fighter jets & AWACS to protect Iranian delegation from any misadventure by Israel. —

The Iranian delegation, likely led by speaker of Iran's parliament, will arrive in Islamabad tonight for talks with US."



You are welcome Iran.

Is this a Pakistani Nationalist's wet dream ??? (yes)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

sir,

I am just sharing a thought out loud, what can Pakistan offer to Saudis that Israelis and Americans have not done for them already?

Saudis have much more modern and deadly conventional arsenal that we cant even allow ourselves to dream of.

this news is odd, are we sending frontline fodder for Iranian invasion to honor our so called defense pact?

 

[Olympus81]

Can someone fill me on what the PAF C130s and tankers doing over Saudi airspace?

From its flight path, may be a show of force towards the Emirati scumbags?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Peace talks taking part tomorrow in Islamabad

Make no mistake Israel will try and has assassinated the negotiating teams in the past
There absolutely every chance Israel tries to do it again

and part of me wants Israel to make a move against Pakistan because Pakistan will not pre-emptive strike Israel but if they attack first rest assured Pakistan would respond
Pakistan Air Force should send the Indus Dragons to Iran and escort the Iranian delegation to Pakistan and Back

The record speaks for itself 6 x French Built Rafales were killed by this jet

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Not 6 Rafales. Score card is :

4 x Rafales ( BS-001, BS-021, BS-022, and BS-027 ), Su30MKI, Mig-29, Mirage-2000.

 

[Bharatah]

New round of analysis from Brazilian geopolitical experts, and the news are not good:

- Iran had been winning the war; the ceasefire aims to benefit only the US and Israel.
- Pakistan has been used by the US and may end up with a damaged image for having benefited the US and Israel.
- Pakistan pressured Iran not to attack Israel after the last attack in Lebanon: the idea of the ceasefire is precisely this, that Israel continues attacking countries around it and that Iran does not attack back.
- With the ceasefire, the US will regroup, rearm, fortify Israel's defenses, and will not fulfill any of the negotiated points, and Iran will be attacked again in a short time, now with new strategies.
- Within Iran, there are politicians and military personnel working for the US and Israel: Rohani became a viral sensation online with the ceasefire; this is already a sign of what is to come. The locations of people for Israel to kill are given by them, and they are never killed by Israel.

There will never be peace in the Middle East, therefore for Iran, the only thing left is to fight because if it doesn't, it will be destroyed. Any agreement or negotiation aims to benefit only the adversaries of Iran and the Islamic religion.

NOTE: The specialist LINNIKER FLECHAMURA (whose analyses I have already posted here), minutes after the "ceasefire," stated that Israel would bomb Lebanon and "Arabs" would demand financial reparations from Iran, which is what happened. According to him, Iran could be destroyed if it continues to talk with other countries; it should annul the ceasefire and go to total war.

 

[Olympus81]

I have a creative thought.

How about we host the Americans and Iranians in Azad Kashmir and call these peace accords as Kashmir accords.

The Indians will go bezerk.

 

[Meengla]

I wish we have war gamed this scenario.
But conventionally our options are not too many.
The newly created ARF might not have enough long arms to do any thing tactically.
A big gap for our conventional aerial offensive reach.

Even some Indian analysts, apologetically, said that Modi didn't have to physically be in Israel just to sign some defense and trade deals barely two days within the start of the war on Iran. And just when this attack on Iran was starting, the Afghan Taliban attacked 50+ border check posts of Pakistan. I don't think those three events are unconnected, especially not given that the Afghan Foreign Minister some months before had basically conceded Kashmir to India when he was in India.
Israelis have tried to checkmate Pakistan through India and Afghanistan and probably will use its surrogates in Pakistan too.

 

[Taimoor]

Turkey



...(continue)... In particular, the international community must remain alert to potential acts of sabotage by Israel and be prepared to respond appropriately.

Thats why nothing should be taken for granted, show of hard power and clear message of FAFO in no uncertain terms.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I am not sure what the C130H's can do unless they have been outfitted for refuelling, or for EW ?

 

[That_Guy]

sir,

I am just sharing a thought out loud, what can Pakistan offer to Saudis that Israelis and Americans have not done for them already?

Saudis have much more modern and deadly conventional arsenal that we cant even allow ourselves to dream of.

this news is odd, are we sending frontline fodder for Iranian invasion to honor our so called defense pact?

Ground troops, and nukes.

The Saudis can't fight a war. They have the tech, but their armed forces are designed to never be a threat to the monarchy, so they're poorly trained at the middle to senior level. Their soldiers can go toe to toe with any other armed force, but if their tactical level and strategic level command is filled with incompetent morons, they'll never win a war.

This is why they relied so heavily on foreign forces, including PMCs during the Yemen war for ground operations.

The Israelis have offered nothing but an open threat to annex Saudi Territory.

The Americans won't risk ground troops to defend a foreign country that's not Israel.

Pakistanis can offer hundreds of thousands of willing and ready volunteers to defend them, in the guise of defending Mecca and Madinah.

 

[Immortals]

 

[mythbuster]

New round of analysis from Brazilian geopolitical experts, and the news are not good:

- Iran had been winning the war; the ceasefire aims to benefit only the US and Israel.
- Pakistan has been used by the US and may end up with a damaged image for having benefited the US and Israel.
- Pakistan pressured Iran not to attack Israel after the last attack in Lebanon: the idea of the ceasefire is precisely this, that Israel continues attacking countries around it and that Iran does not attack back.
- With the ceasefire, the US will regroup, rearm, fortify Israel's defenses, and will not fulfill any of the negotiated points, and Iran will be attacked again in a short time, now with new strategies.
- Within Iran, there are politicians and military personnel working for the US and Israel: Rohani became a viral sensation online with the ceasefire; this is already a sign of what is to come. The locations of people for Israel to kill are given by them, and they are never killed by Israel.

There will never be peace in the Middle East, therefore for Iran, the only thing left is to fight because if it doesn't, it will be destroyed. Any agreement or negotiation aims to benefit only the adversaries of Iran and the Islamic religion.

NOTE: The specialist LINNIKER FLECHAMURA (whose analyses I have already posted here), minutes after the "ceasefire," stated that Israel would bomb Lebanon and "Arabs" would demand financial reparations from Iran, which is what happened. According to him, Iran could be destroyed if it continues to talk with other countries; it should annul the ceasefire and go to total war.

Brazil was never known to have geopolitical experts.... well, there is a first for everything.

 

[Immortals]

I am not sure what the C130H's can do unless they have been outfitted for refuelling, or for EW ?

They are transports to King Abdulaziz Air Base in Saudi Arabia.

I have no idea why people here think that Pakistan would be flying over Saudi Arabia to defend against Israel jets against Iran. It’s like people don’t bother looking at a map to see how Israel does its sorties against Iran.

This looks like a resupply mission to Saudi Arabia of some sorts.

 

[Meengla]

this news is odd, are we sending frontline fodder for Iranian invasion to honor our so called defense pact?

When the UAE just asked Pakistan to pay back the billions because Pakistan wasn't going to oblige UAE's plans in the war on Iran then Saudi Arabia stepped up to help Pakistan's dire foreign exchange reserves. Also, Absar Alam's latest video is reporting that Pakistan prevailed upon the Iran yesterday to not hit back UAE because the alleged attack by UAE yesterday was either a False Flag by Israel or would be not conducive to the ongoing peace negotiations. And I think I saw somewhere that even UAE is behind the upcoming Islamabad talks now.
Things are moving very fast and there is a lot of diplomacy going on. If I were to hazard a guess then it would be like: The Americans really want out in a way where they could restrict Netanyahu's almost-personal ambitions and that the regional countries, including Iran, UAE and Saudi Arabia want the conflict to stop and stop right now!