Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[That_Guy]

sir,

I am just sharing a thought out loud, what can Pakistan offer to Saudis that Israelis and Americans have not done for them already?

Saudis have much more modern and deadly conventional arsenal that we cant even allow ourselves to dream of.

this news is odd, are we sending frontline fodder for Iranian invasion to honor our so called defense pact?

Ground troops, and nukes.

The Saudis can't fight a war. They have the tech, but their armed forces are designed to never be a threat to the monarchy, so they're poorly trained at the middle to senior level. Their soldiers can go toe to toe with any other armed force, but if their tactical level and strategic level command is filled with incompetent morons, they'll never win a war.

This is why they relied so heavily on foreign forces, including PMCs during the Yemen war for ground operations.

The Israelis have offered nothing but an open threat to annex Saudi Territory.

The Americans won't risk ground troops to defend a foreign country that's not Israel.

Pakistanis can offer hundreds of thousands of willing and ready volunteers to defend them, in the guise of defending Mecca and Madinah.

 

[Immortals]

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[mythbuster]

New round of analysis from Brazilian geopolitical experts, and the news are not good:

- Iran had been winning the war; the ceasefire aims to benefit only the US and Israel.
- Pakistan has been used by the US and may end up with a damaged image for having benefited the US and Israel.
- Pakistan pressured Iran not to attack Israel after the last attack in Lebanon: the idea of the ceasefire is precisely this, that Israel continues attacking countries around it and that Iran does not attack back.
- With the ceasefire, the US will regroup, rearm, fortify Israel's defenses, and will not fulfill any of the negotiated points, and Iran will be attacked again in a short time, now with new strategies.
- Within Iran, there are politicians and military personnel working for the US and Israel: Rohani became a viral sensation online with the ceasefire; this is already a sign of what is to come. The locations of people for Israel to kill are given by them, and they are never killed by Israel.

There will never be peace in the Middle East, therefore for Iran, the only thing left is to fight because if it doesn't, it will be destroyed. Any agreement or negotiation aims to benefit only the adversaries of Iran and the Islamic religion.

NOTE: The specialist LINNIKER FLECHAMURA (whose analyses I have already posted here), minutes after the "ceasefire," stated that Israel would bomb Lebanon and "Arabs" would demand financial reparations from Iran, which is what happened. According to him, Iran could be destroyed if it continues to talk with other countries; it should annul the ceasefire and go to total war.

Brazil was never known to have geopolitical experts.... well, there is a first for everything.

 

[Immortals]

I am not sure what the C130H's can do unless they have been outfitted for refuelling, or for EW ?

They are transports to King Abdulaziz Air Base in Saudi Arabia.

I have no idea why people here think that Pakistan would be flying over Saudi Arabia to defend against Israel jets against Iran. It’s like people don’t bother looking at a map to see how Israel does its sorties against Iran.

This looks like a resupply mission to Saudi Arabia of some sorts.

 

[Meengla]

this news is odd, are we sending frontline fodder for Iranian invasion to honor our so called defense pact?

When the UAE just asked Pakistan to pay back the billions because Pakistan wasn't going to oblige UAE's plans in the war on Iran then Saudi Arabia stepped up to help Pakistan's dire foreign exchange reserves. Also, Absar Alam's latest video is reporting that Pakistan prevailed upon the Iran yesterday to not hit back UAE because the alleged attack by UAE yesterday was either a False Flag by Israel or would be not conducive to the ongoing peace negotiations. And I think I saw somewhere that even UAE is behind the upcoming Islamabad talks now.
Things are moving very fast and there is a lot of diplomacy going on. If I were to hazard a guess then it would be like: The Americans really want out in a way where they could restrict Netanyahu's almost-personal ambitions and that the regional countries, including Iran, UAE and Saudi Arabia want the conflict to stop and stop right now!

 

[hussain0216]

Its happening

This is well worth a watch

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[Falgrine]

Even some Indian analysts, apologetically, said that Modi didn't have to physically be in Israel just to sign some defense and trade deals barely two days within the start of the war on Iran. And just when this attack on Iran was starting, the Afghan Taliban attacked 50+ border check posts of Pakistan. I don't think those three events are unconnected, especially not given that the Afghan Foreign Minister some months before had basically conceded Kashmir to India when he was in India.
Israelis have tried to checkmate Pakistan through India and Afghanistan and probably will use its surrogates in Pakistan too.

Yes, I find the coincidence quite puzzling.
Okay to be fair we GBUed a few targets before Afg goons opened up on the border on those 50 plus places.

Could be the other way around too.
Our intel might have guessed/gotten wind that US/Israel are going to start bombing Iran and decided to really do the needful in Afg sneaking behind the big news grabbing the headlines.

Whatever the true case might have been, we should be on guards but my apprehension is that short of a strategic response, there is not much with which we can get back to Israel mainland. Okay a long aerial refueling based ops is still possible but realistically it would be next to impossible that we are able to sneak close enough to the area and launch standoff missiles.

US is still the boss in the region and they are Zios best buddies.

 

[Immortals]

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Israel and U.S. killed 3000+ Iranians in 6 weeks of war by bombing 15000+ targets with 500-2000 pound bombs.

But they want you to believe that the Iranian government killed 45,000 Iranians in 1 week using pistols and rifles in January “protests”.

 

[hasssanali8998]

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[nervouscar]

BBC generating consent..what on earth is happening! "people of iran says nuke us we want freedom"
watch

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[Yasser76]

Chaklala will be busy today....

 

[Meengla]

Yes, I find the coincidence quite puzzling.
Okay to be fair we GBUed a few targets before Afg goons opened up on the border on those 50 plus places.
Could be the other way around too.
Our intel might have guessed/gotten wind that US/Israel are going to start bombing Iran and decided to really do the needful in Afg sneaking behind the big news grabbing the headlines.

You are right about on the 'to be fair' part and the rest of the post about the Afghanistan factor. Hard to say in that chicken or egg situation.

Whatever the true case might have been, we should be on guards but my apprehension is that short of a strategic response, there is not much with which we can get back to Israel mainland. Okay a long aerial refueling based ops is still possible but realistically it would be next to impossible that we are able to sneak close enough to the area and launch standoff missiles.
US is still the boss in the region and they are Zios best buddies.

I tend to think of Pakistan and Israel like two male lions in Africa: They know each other's strength too much to directly confront each other too much. Notice that during the India-Pakistan conflict of May 2025, even Israel did not name 'Pakistan' during Israel's support to India in that conflict.
As to the 'US is still the boss' in the Middle East: I don't think so. This war on Iran will change the regional dynamics far too radically.

 

[Abdul q]

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I think there will be continuous shield throughout the air route and surveillance and operations reaching far to the western iranian border….

 

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