Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Reichsmarschall said:
Its happening already...
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That route does not make sense if the goal is to intercept Israeli jets. Israeli jets fly over the Syria-Iraq-Iran air route (and sometimes over Caspian Sea using the mountains in northern Iran as anti radar cover).

This route you are showing would only make sense if Pakistan expects Israeli jets to come out of Jordan or Saudi Arabian air space.
 
Immortals said:
They should do it and continue making colossal mistakes, it would ruin their image further and cement their image as a genocidal regime.
Iran loses an FM and a parliamentary speaker. Not strategic battlefield losses and the war resumes in earnest.
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You blow hot and cold. I don't want to be too harsh on you because there is great stress on the Iranians, which is understandable. But you, like the expats of Pakistan in Western countries, seem like in some 'expansive' mode all too much. For years, I have been warning fellow Pakistanis about the expat Pakistanis from Western countries. I have reason to have some very negative opinions on them and I had hinted toward them outside of this thread plenty of times.
As to the bolded part: That too shows you, like a typical expat in some Western country, just say whatever you think at the moment. Have you considered that leaders are not some computer hard drives which are 'duplicated' and that the real human beings carry and bring a lot of knowledge and even wisdom in decision making? Have you, in your expansive expat mode, considered as to really WHY the Iranians are considering the ceasefire despite the huge losses to Iran? Have you even considered why, upon Pakistan's request, the negotiators from Iran have been kept alive?
 
Yasser76 said:
This is very heavy PAF activity. 3 Tankers and 3 C-130s present a big chunk of our fleet, looks like the location indicates this is support for an escort mission...
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This seems more like a deployment of somekind of aerial force component to Saudi than any preparation or practice for an escort mission.
 
Meengla said:
Pakistani reaching out to an impoverished and destroyed Lebanon--a nation which has nothing to 'give' to Pakistan, shows Pakistan's true 'DNA'. Where is that guy who said many pages ago that Pakistan was going to backstab Iran in the UNSC because that's in Pakistan's 'DNA'? I notice many of the Reza Shah Pahlavi Brigade of Pakistan are quite quiet late. Oh, they would be so excited if only their Messiah was in charge of Pakistan right now!


I don't think Mossad would sabotage this one especially when a US VP is going to Pakistan. And Mossad could have taken out a few remaining top Iranian leaders in Iran itself by now but then who'd be left to negotiate with?



There are supposed to be three possible locations in Islamabad to host the guests and to host the talk. It is kind of an open secret what all those places are. Such things are very difficult to hide. The real danger is not from foreign govts: The danger comes from the rogue elements/terrorists right inside Pakistan and from Afghanistan.
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Israeli is a spoiler. If they plan to assassinate the Iranian negotiations team they can. Here’s a good example. The cease fire was clear as day . I believe the USA intended to follow it but lizard Israel had no intention of following it so did what they wanted regardless bombing Lebanon re-starting hostilities. And no action from them Americans,
 
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Chinese are part of the guarantee of Iranian delegation safety in addition to Pakistan

Maybe PAF escorting Chinese planes with Iranians in them
 
Meengla said:
You blow hot and cold. I don't want to be too harsh on you because there is great stress on the Iranians, which is understandable. But you, like the expats of Pakistan in Western countries, seem like in some 'expansive' mode all too much. For years, I have been warning fellow Pakistanis about the expat Pakistanis from Western countries. I have reason to have some very negative opinions on them and I had hinted toward them outside of this thread plenty of times.
As to the bolded part: That too shows you, like a typical expat in some Western country, just say whatever you think at the moment. Have you considered that leaders are not some computer hard drives which are 'duplicated' and that the real human beings carry and bring a lot of knowledge and even wisdom in decision making? Have you, in your expansive expat mode, considered as to really WHY the Iranians are considering the ceasefire despite the huge losses to Iran? Have you even considered why, upon Pakistan's request, the negotiators from Iran have been kept alive?
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You are reading too much into the tea leaves.

Israel has a lot more to lose targeting the Iranian delegation than Iran has to lose from losing two individuals regardless of their “knowledge and wisdom”. You forget that less than 3 years ago, Iran’s president and FM perished in an aviation accident.

So the point of my post was alluding to the fact that the Iranian delegation isn’t scared about such an attack because it doesn’t change the realities on the ground if it were to happen. It would just be another instance of a genocidal regime lashing out in anger for failing to achieve its objectives. The comments were related at looking at the chess board subjectively and not the merits of the chess pieces.
 
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