Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[omegalamba7xl9]

We can't back it up conventionally.

Yes WE CAN... Just the language was what can I say..

 

[hasssanali8998]

 

[Starlord]

So India didn't want to be "Dalal's" but won't mind about been Dalal Observers ? lol There is not a single nation on earth that is more pathetic than India.

 

[Oscar]

Those are not Pak jets.

We can now see the logic of needing 4 witnesses ever since AI generated images and videos came of age.

 

[Mutakalim]

Sweetheart, I suggest you check out what happened to the last country that threatened to destroy Israel," - Yinon Mahal of Israeli Channel 14.
honestly it wasn’t necessary for khwaja to open his mouth.

Yes! It was not necessary. Why cant we remain silent about genocidal entity like rest of the countries in middle east? We should not speak, I would say, we should not even think badly about the chosen ones. We should hide our thought lest followers of Baal get angry on us. Duck! Hide! Seek refuge from peace loving Jews!

 

[Immortals]

 

[Tabmachine]

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i was thinking this might be the case, but how much impact does a tweet really have?

 

[hasssanali8998]

i was thinking this might be the case, but how much impact does a tweet really have?

Nothing tbh
It will be forgotten in day with how chaotic things are rn

 

[Ibbi32]

We can't back it up conventionally.

I dont see why not. If bibi wants to come to Pakistan we are waiting for him and trump may be a delusional idiot but even he doesnt want a war between 2 nuclear powers so us support is out of question. Some 40 odd f-35s and f-15s they can send here can be countred by PAF and we can still launch raad and taimoors in retaliation from within airspace of friendly countries (saudia). But treating conventional and nuclear forces seperately is foolish because its Pakistans inherent doctrine to counter any conventional asymmetry by blurring lines of nuclear and conventional threshold

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Yes WE CAN... Just the language was what can I say..

No you can't, don't engage in delusions and embarass yourself, such people are the quickest in being humiliated. You are stretched enough as it is against India and believe you have any way to meaningfully extend your reach deep into the Middle East to do anything impactful. It's a suicide mission.

 

[KAL-EL]

What's with this almost obsession with some that think Israel is going to directly attack Pakistan? Not going to happen

Be realistic and in the real world

 

[Tabmachine]

Israel's all operations targeting Lebanon over the last two years cannot be read independently of the Iran file. Evaluating this as a singular event means ignoring the logic of the past two years.

Israel's strategic priority ranking has been clear from the start: neutralize nearby threats first, then march toward the main target. The operation in Gaza, ongoing since October 2023 and turning into genocide, was aimed at eliminating Hamas's operational capacity on the southern border. Hezbollah in Lebanon was serving the same function on the northern border. In a scenario of major escalation against Iran, neutralizing the backstabbing capacity of these two fronts was a prerequisite. It's always gone like this.

Similarly, after February 28, when Israel started striking Lebanon as well, people kept asking, "Why is Lebanon being hit at the same time as Iran?" The reason was the same again: keeping the nearby threat under pressure.

First Gaza, then pager devices and ground operations in Lebanon and the Nasrallah assassination, heavily striking Yemen, then the 12-Day Conflict, followed by the February 28 attacks. Each stage has prepared the ground for the next. This isn't coincidence; it's sequencing. It shouldn't be read singularly.

Now, while everyone talks about a ceasefire between Iran and the US/Israel, Israel's attack on Lebanon is a repetition of the same pattern. Pressure on Hezbollah is ramped up before every major escalation or during escalation intervals. The reason is simple: to further reduce Hezbollah's potential capacity for coordinated retaliation before moving to the next phase of settling scores with Iran.

As for the ceasefire issue. As I noted in the assessment I shared this morning, these kinds of pauses give Israel time to focus on Lebanon. They provide political space for Trump to say, "I tried diplomacy." They're giving markets a breather. And most critically, Iran's military communications, mobility, and reflexes in this process have been observed. When the conflict settles into a rhythm, they've always made moves to disrupt the decision cycle. They're doing it again.

The perspective that reads events singularly asks: "Why is Israel attacking Lebanon?" The holistic perspective asks: "Is Israel attacking Lebanon again before moving to the next stage against Iran? If so, how much more pressure does it need?" The two questions lead to entirely different answers.

Israel launched a genocide-level operation in Gaza. In Lebanon, it systematically destroyed Hezbollah's command structure, ammunition depots, and operational depth. It carried out strikes against the Houthis in Yemen. All of these were proxy structures providing Iran with regional depth. Dismantling these structures one by one is strategically isolating Iran. Now, when Iran fires a missile, it has to respond largely on its own, without a coordinated front system to lean on.

What’s happening in Lebanon today can be read as a harbinger of what will happen in the Iran file tomorrow. At the very least, there's reasonable suspicion. For now, what’s stopping is the bombs, not the process.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

I dont see why not. If bibi wants to come to Pakistan we are waiting for him and trump may be a delusional idiot but even he doesnt want a war between 2 nuclear powers so us support is out of question. Some 40 odd f-35s and f-15s they can send here can be countred by PAF and we can still launch raad and taimoors in retaliation from within airspace of friendly countries (saudia). But treating conventional and nuclear forces seperately is foolish because its Pakistans inherent doctrine to counter any conventional asymmetry by blurring lines of nuclear and conventional threshold

Any talks of nuclear weapons is essentially a suicide mission.

And if Israel uses conventional force, it won't be alone and India will be alongside it. US tankers could give it enough range to launch ALBMs against targets in Pakistan. What does Pakistan have to meaningfully hit targets in Israel repeatedly?

 

[mythbuster]

We can now see the logic of needing 4 witnesses ever since AI generated images and videos came of age.

Well , we can go for Mr. AI's DNA test

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Saudi would never allow Pakistan to use its bases or airspace for offensive missions against Israel against it unless Saudi itself is a primary target of Israeli aggression.