Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Aziqbal]

It’s interesting that the leading negotiator from the American side is actually JD Vance

Marco Rubio is not even mentioned

The teams Americans are sending is already the best for the negotiations

This is a good start but not over until the final agreement is reached

Pakistan side there is representatives from Army chief of staff

Also Pakistani defence minister delegation 

Seems like Pakistan wants to weigh in its heavy military presence to help the Iranians weigh in

 

[tsunset]

He is talking of post-peace operation, not force open during war

 

[hussain0216]

If Iran was smart they should insist on IAEA inspectors to be required on every Israeli site for the next 30 years.

Absolutely

I never understood this

Iran or any country's response to this should be clear

Israel is a undeclared nuclear state
Israel is also a apartheid state
Israel has wanted war criminals as leaders
Israel is occupying territory of multiple states
Israel has attacked multiple states

Israel allegedly has a illicit nuclear weapons program outside of any IAEA oversight


If anyone wants Iran or any country to submit to inspections
Then the response should be ISRAEL FIRST, once inspections of Israel are carried out any illicit nuclear weapons program ended and dealt with then Iran or others will comply


What's the point of the U.S or west protecting Israeli nuclear weapons programs after all that Israel does and then points fingers at Iran or others

 

[ShapurII]

USS Boxer : https://www.cruisingearth.com/ship-tracker/united-states-navy/uss-boxer/

I doubt Boxer is heading there. No news of it anywhere.

Ford is already in theatre and Bush was announced 2 weeks ago.

USS Boxer and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deploy to Middle East

I think that tracker is wrong.

 

[Meengla]

As far as Keir Starmer, I have my doubts. Analysts have said that Starmer is trying to be on the good side of Trump by presenting the 30-country coalition which is basically a Nothing Burger.
Any coalition or no coalition should be willing to shed blood to take control of the Strait and that's not any country wants to do--not even the Americans.

 

[SecularNationalist]

A Royal Bahraini Air Force (RBAF) F-16 Block 70 fighter scored the type’s first air-to-air kill on April 1 against a pair of Iranian drones, a source familiar with the incident tells Aviation Week.
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How can you even call that a achievement lol

 

[Yasser76]

How can you even call that a achievement lol

Oh many watch now as every Arab country will tell stories about epic victories.....

 

[Homajon]

This Furkan guy is the biggest joker out there. For him everything is an absolute bombshell...

 

[Taimoor]

Wow

Prominent Pakistanis destroying Israel

Both Khawajas going mental. Interesting though, both are known to be inner circle of Nawaz Shreef, not Shahbaz.

 

[KingQamaR]

As far as Keir Starmer, I have my doubts. Analysts have said that Starmer is trying to be on the good side of Trump by presenting the 30-country coalition which is basically a Nothing Burger.
Any coalition or no coalition should be willing to shed blood to take control of the Strait and that's not any country wants to do--not even the Americans.

It is fair to say that U.K. and America now have a “special toxic relationship “ .

 

[maverick]

He is talking of post-peace operation, not force open during war

As i told everyone 2 weeks ago, that mark my word, NATO will be repurposed for ME. and specifically for Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
This is the starting point

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The toll system in SOH will be tricky for Iran if its put in indefinitely.

A reasonable compromise may be for Iran to tally up its economic loss - lets say if its $100bn then tolls will run until the damages have been recovered. An independent auditor can be nominated to confirm the money recovered.

Nations which supported the war direct or indirect, who have sanctioned Iran will be under toll. There will be exceptions for countries like Spain, Slovenia, Belgium, Ireland, lower rates or no rates for friendly countries. No Israeli ships allowed, no US military ships allowed to use the Strait.

If Oman doesnt want to be part of it, a separate account for Oman is setup they are paid annually and its up to them if they want to give that money back.

I think this is a reasonable compromise.

National Security!
National security will always trump economic windfall. Iran can do bilateral deals with a lower toll but the waterway has essentially become a corridor for powers around the workd to foment and foist wars on the region... for energy and political reasons. I know the statelets inside will squirm and holler but they BROUGHT it upon themselves.

They got to enjoy an outsized role on the back of energy they sold and money they could squander to buy shiny toys and massive foreign bases. Qatar already learned the lesson on where they stand in tbe pecking order irrespective of all the money and gift they splurged in buying security... Emirates doesn't even consider itself part of the region. This has to a be permanent to clear the power vacuum that these iterations of a bygone era return to earth.

Oman is irrelevant to this discussion... they never had ambitions, kept their head down when others flaunted and simply fo not have the numbers needed to level up. It will however be upto Iran to keep their escrow whatever they can decide down the road... because it will be Iran enforcing it... again owing to it's size, geography, demographics and security of the region.

About time states from the region level up to the challenges at hand.

 

[Fatman17]

How can you even call that a achievement lol

For Bahrain yes

 

[Taimoor]

Now, this seems like a conspiracy. This is not normal. A single message was enough.
I hope Rafiq must state that his account was hacked or so. I thought GHQ was behind that tweet, but now seems it is Bao ji...

That what I was thinking as well, both Khawajas are inner circle of Nawaz not Shahbaz.