Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

Why V corps? Afaik its ussualy western divs that go to ME and weve not done division wide foreign deployments in some time. FC can handle western front so likely 7th division will go

Was assuming Western corps are busy right now no?
 
As long as we're defending Saudi assets and not American ones, it's ok.
Hopefully we go full tilt if the Israelis attack.

I cannot believe that our defense planners didn't foresee us being dragged into a war with Iran.


It’s a big mess. There’s a possibility Israel Mossad is smart to good S.Arabia into making pack with Pakistan.Now nuclear Pakistan has their hands tied if we want to assist our neighbour Iran fighting this US Israel Gcc in this military clash.
 
I think Egyptians might show up soon as well. They have an equally large financial dependency on Saudi and have played this bodyguard role in the past too.

I had seen some knowledgeable analysts describe the meeting between foreign ministers of Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi and Egypt couple weeks ago in Islamabad as not only being about the Iran-US talks, but also a new postwar security architecture in the Mideast. A Muslim NATO kind of arrangement. People were somewhat comfortable with US Mideast hegemony for awhile because of the reputation and soft power of America but that's all gone now and they are not interested in the hegemony of anyone else.
A Muslim NATO won't work for a million different reasons, the reason NATO has worked is because it was built around defense from a single enemy and was held together by the Americans as the dominating force.

This "Muslim NATO" Wouldn't work because they face different enemies and would be made up of four states of roughly equal military power

Turkey considers Israel as it's main potential adversary

Egypt considers Israel and Ethiopia as it's potential adversaries

Saudis consider Iran and potentially Israel as their adversaries.

For Pakistan it's essentially entirely India.

Now 3 of them have the same potential enemy but Pakistan doesn't, would you see Egypt coming in defense of Pakistan against India? Or Pakistan against Ethiopia? also This alliance sort of needs Pakistan since the Israeli have nukes the other three don't.

We already sort of a Muslim Nato in the past (CENTO) but it failed because the members refused to come in defense of each other.
 
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UAE now has no choice, will have to jump into bed completely with Israel and/or India.

Hard to see Indian or Israeli forces based in UAE, but these are crazy times and if 2 months ago you would said Iran and US would be chatting to each over over chai and somosa at Islamabad Serena I would have reported the post....
 
UAE now has no choice, will have to jump into bed completely with Israel and/or India.

Hard to see Indian or Israeli forces based in UAE, but these are crazy times and if 2 months ago you would said Iran and US would be chatting to each over over chai and somosa at Islamabad Serena I would have reported the post....
i think its already did. when uae king visited pakistan at that time alliances were clearly made
 
It’s a big mess. There’s a possibility Israel Mossad is smart to good S.Arabia into making pack with Pakistan.Now nuclear Pakistan has their hands tied if we want to assist our neighbour Iran fighting this US Israel Gcc in this military clash.
Considering some of the statements coming out of Pakistan, especially the defense minister, I can't see Pakistan going into a full blown war with Iran.

I can see them in a small way helping some of the Arab states, that's where the money is.
 
Considering some of the statements coming out of Pakistan, especially the defense minister, I can't see Pakistan going into a full blown war with Iran.

I can see them in a small way helping some of the Arab states, that's where the money is.

That is all we need to do, the very fact jet fighters of a nucelar power are there gives a massive level of reassurance, stops things getting too crazy.

Right now Iran and Pakistan are in a very good place, Pak knows Iran would only jepordize that if really desperate
 
Fair enough, but who knows who is reading our posts
True but regardless of that, I wouldn't be posting such info on public forums. This was mainly bait squarely aimed at the lurkers here who read a few posts and make their claims on X lmao
 
Israel does not depend on the KSA to attack Iran. They use following route:
Israel -> Syria -> Iraq -> Iran. The US can attack Iran from different directions.

The US does not have any military base in the KSA. All military bases in the KSA are Saudi owned. The KSA allows the US to use a military base to conduct an operation in the region, if necessary. American forces are deployed in the Prince Sultan Air Base. Pakistani forces are deployed in the King Abdulaziz Air Base.

Pakistan cannot prevent strikes in Iran, Pakistan can adopt the role of mediator in this matter which it is doing. The PAF contingent is most likely aimed to defend the KSA as per its need. Iranian drones come to mind in the present but let's see. And no military base is a liability. They are designed to withstand attacks and can be repaired.


See above.


See above.


The KSA is huge. They don't need the PAF to cover entire KSA when they have a well-equipped Air Force to do that. If the PAF deploy F-16s in the KSA, the host can refuel them for an operation, if necessary.
Yes exactly my thought, with perhaps US easing out and Pak stepping in
 
Does the PAF have fire snake guided rockets for the JF-17s? Because we will go through our stock of PL-5s pretty quickly if they are actually engaged anti drone roles.

Good point, think with the slow moving ones we can go in with guns?

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That is all we need to do, the very fact jet fighters of a nucelar power are there gives a massive level of reassurance, stops things getting too crazy.

Right now Iran and Pakistan are in a very good place, Pak knows Iran would only jepordize that if really desperate
One reassuring trend is that the Saudis increasingly realise that the Israelis are the threat ( slow or what!), and the Americans have essentially betrayed them.

Let's see if the Saudis can keep their tongue out of the Zionists butt.
 

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