Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Master Chief]

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[Musings]

I have a feeling that Melania Trumps press conference about Not knowing Epstein maybe connected to this conflict, and in coming days Israel may use Melania to further blackmail Trump.

Ye you could be on the ball here. Why she had a press conference when really shes been hardly mentioned? Israeli maybe ready to use the silver bullet

 

[Shakehands]

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[ShapurII]

We were firing about 20 missiles a day if I’m not mistaken. Thats a low number, maybe we need this time to reorganize, dig out tunnel entrances etc?

Excluding the first few days of war where we used large barrages of missiles, our firing rate was about 20-30 missiles per day throughout the conflict. If anything, it has slightly increased in the last 2 weeks.
@Persian Gulf or @Immortals can correct me if I'm wrong. They posted the daily graph of our missiles and drones fired during the war.

I think Only 4 ships or so carrying oil or gas has passed the straight since the ceasefire. You’re not going to fill up the world reserve with 4 ships.

The Strait of Hormuz accounts for 20%-25% of the oil transit only. You don't need to pass through the Strait of Hormuz to fill up your reserves. There is another important limiting factor: the number of containers and tankers available. Their original 45-day ceasefire was enough for a new round of loading and unloading. The 2-week ceasefire limits that to a great extent fortunately but it's still a temporarily relief.

 

[hussain0216]

History will prove Turkey dumping F-35 and going for their own indigenous stealth fighter was the right decision.

They could have done both

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Bengal71]

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Did they pay toll or not?

 

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[mangekyo]

Excluding the first few days of war where we used large barrages of missiles, our firing rate was about 20-30 missiles per day throughout the conflict. If anything, it has slightly increased in the last 2 weeks.
@Persian Gulf or @Immortals can correct me if I'm wrong. They posted the daily graph of our missiles and drones fired during the war.


The Strait of Hormuz accounts for 20%-25% of the oil transit only. You don't need to pass through the Strait of Hormuz to fill up your reserves. There is another important limiting factor: the number of containers and tankers available. Their original 45-day ceasefire was enough for a new round of loading and unloading. The 2-week ceasefire limits that to a great extent fortunately but it's still a temporarily relief.

Tankers not passing the strait weren’t affected by the war. Trumps market manipulation was becoming ineffective. The only thing the ceasefire achieved for oil is lowering prices. Thats not going to do much in the long run once the war continues.

I’m not sure how important lower oil prices are to China now. We were letting ships carrying oil to them pass, and they were already getting heavily discounted oil from us and have huge oil reserves. Maybe our Chinese friends can help us better understand Chinas position?

 

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[ShapurII]

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This Singaporean gentleman is correct overall, but he is forgetting two important facts.

A) The Strait of Hormuz is the only chokepoint for the oil exports of many Arab states in the Persian Gulf. His data on other straits are correct and valid, but they can be circumvented by not passing through them, while the Strait of Hormuz remains the only viable option for these Arab states.

B) Also, Iran has not ratified UNCLOS. As such, we are not obligated to honor it.

 

[r3alist]

This Singaporean gentleman is correct overall, but he is forgetting two important facts.

A) The Strait of Hormuz is the only chokepoint for the oil exports of many Arab states in the Persian Gulf. His data on other straits are correct and valid, but they can be circumvented by not passing through them, while the Strait of Hormuz remains the only viable option for these Arab states.

B) Also, Iran has not ratified UNCLOS. As such, we are not obligated to honor it.

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[ShapurII]

Tankers not passing the strait weren’t affected by the war. Trumps market manipulation was becoming ineffective. The only thing the ceasefire achieved for oil is lowering prices. Thats not going to do much in the long run once the war continues.

It is not about them, the tankers, getting affected by the war directly. It is about buying time before the energy shock becomes a reality.

It is about unloading and loading tankers and containers before shit hits the fan and oil prices force many countries in poorer nations and energy hungry countries to shut down their schools, factories, etc.

I’m not sure how important lower oil prices are to China now. We were letting ships carrying oil to them pass, and they were already getting heavily discounted oil from us and have huge oil reserves. Maybe our Chinese friends can help us better understand Chinas position?

Iran provides less than 10% of China's oil demand. Higher oil prices do matter to them.

 

[Aziqbal]

I am worried about how Iranians delegation will get back to Iran ?

They might be stuck in Pakistan for a while now