Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Frogen]

Lol, so much for the democracy beacon of the world. The mad orange man so elected is literally free to do whatever he wants to wage any wars and he is accountable to no one. How ironic, they always complain about the dictatorship in China.

I've seen countless U.S. lawmakers, think tanks, and even retired military guys openly talking about using this chance to cut off China's energy imports and wreck its economy. We're talking about two countries not even at war—deliberately blocking trade routes with military force is literally an act of war. Are these American barbarians insane? Has it really gotten so crazy that they can just go on TV and openly advocate for attacking another superpower?

This is exactly why, despite people complaining that China isn't backing Iran enough, I still think China shouldn't get too deeply involved in the U.S.-Iran war on the surface. The West is in a state of collective hysteria regarding China right now. If China were to openly take a stand in Iran against the U.S., it might push the West into a total irrational frenzy, making the conflict even harder to resolve.

 

[vizier]

The entrences of Iranian mountain missile bases are getting reopened now. Having the excavator inside proved to be useful when gates are constantly collapsed by cruise missiles. The excavators reopened the gates of the missile bases and ensured some sustaining ballistic missile fire.

While reopening missile base gates two new things should be kept in mind. There should be anti cruise missile mobile short range air defense systems nearby and well camouflaged with radar scattering & thermal blocker netting. These should also constantly redeploy to random new locations. Cruise missiles are the main stand off weapon they use in high quantitites and defenses against it should be properly set. Albm is hard to counter but they are limited in numbers. A majid or 358 nearby protecting the these shorads from air attacks would be useful as well.

The other necessity is the main entrences should not directly connect to the mountain inside chambers with a straight path. there should be a sharp turn or a zig zag close to the mountain entrence connecting to the main chambers. Cruise missile can enter from the main gate but cant explode deeper inside since it can not make high g turns inside if there is a sharp turn connecting to the main gate. They are not built for that. Another option is using gattling guns to take out entering cruise missiles from the main gate but it is harder to implement.

 

[brazensword]

Everybody nose ...

That was some trip!

 

[hasn2009]

Biggest snakes in US politics from day one have been Dems, anyone voting for Dems in any election ever should be completely shunned and ostarcised.

Yeah, but people have only 2 choices.
Though I've not seen any presidential like Hillary Clinton, always venom dripping from her tongue whenever she talks of middle east and muslims.

 

[maxpane]

thats so beautiful song

 

[ety]

I've seen countless U.S. lawmakers, think tanks, and even retired military guys openly talking about using this chance to cut off China's energy imports and wreck its economy. We're talking about two countries not even at war—deliberately blocking trade routes with military force is literally an act of war. Are these American barbarians insane? Has it really gotten so crazy that they can just go on TV and openly advocate for attacking another superpower?

This is exactly why, despite people complaining that China isn't backing Iran enough, I still think China shouldn't get too deeply involved in the U.S.-Iran war on the surface. The West is in a state of collective hysteria regarding China right now. If China were to openly take a stand in Iran against the U.S., it might push the West into a total irrational frenzy, making the conflict even harder to resolve.

The Americans will do to China in whatever in their power whenever they think they can get away. That's why China should build at at least 1500 nukes in deployable state and demonstrate such capability to the world, not totally concealing them to effectively deter American adventurism on Chinese interests. In the meantime, I don't think China should get into unnecessary war with US like many people like China to fight US in the Iran war.

 

[Lulldapull]

36 US Senators just voted to stop arms sales to Israel. All Democrats and the Democratic strength in the Senate is close to 50. Do the math. During the recent Gaza war, around 19 voted for similar Resolution in the US Senate. All Democrats.
Israel does not 'totally' own the US and it is time people start paying attention to the US politics and vote intelligently.

Yaar the broad consensus is that 76% of all fortune 400/ 500 companies in the US are Zio-Oligarch owned.

I mean…..hum aur kya bolain bhai?

 

[Immortals]

First they said HQ-9, then it was supersonic anti ship missiles, then the war broke out, then they said it was manpads and then it was a spy satellite and now it’s X band radars.

China has not sold a major weapon system to Iran in decades (C-802/C-801). Yet that doesn’t stop western media from speculating.

 

[Lulldapull]

First they said HQ-9, then it was supersonic anti ship missiles, then the war broke out, then they said it was manpads and then it was a spy satellite and now it’s X band radars.

China has not sold a major weapon system to Iran in decades (C-802/C-801). Yet that doesn’t stop western media from speculating.

Correct. Iran has received absolutely nothing from anyone in a decade or more. Last weapon system was that S-300 from Russia which was so long ago.

 

[MH.Yang]

I've seen countless U.S. lawmakers, think tanks, and even retired military guys openly talking about using this chance to cut off China's energy imports and wreck its economy. We're talking about two countries not even at war—deliberately blocking trade routes with military force is literally an act of war. Are these American barbarians insane? Has it really gotten so crazy that they can just go on TV and openly advocate for attacking another superpower?

This is exactly why, despite people complaining that China isn't backing Iran enough, I still think China shouldn't get too deeply involved in the U.S.-Iran war on the surface. The West is in a state of collective hysteria regarding China right now. If China were to openly take a stand in Iran against the U.S., it might push the West into a total irrational frenzy, making the conflict even harder to resolve.

China cannot openly support Iran.

Jews control almost all Western media, and the United States also has public opinion hegemony. If China openly supports Iran, Western media will definitely attribute the blame for blockading the strait and damaging the global economy to China.

This will give some politicians controlled by Israel an excuse to help the United States invade Iran.

 

[PakFactor]

China cannot openly support Iran.

Jews control almost all Western media, and the United States also has public opinion hegemony. If China openly supports Iran, Western media will definitely attribute the blame for blockading the strait and damaging the global economy to China.

This will give some politicians controlled by Israel an excuse to help the United States invade Iran.

You are correct; however, ultimately, China will be compelled to take action.

 

[Hayabusa]

No.

There are plenty of countries with their civilian uranium enrichment programs that are %10 and below. If Iran complies, Iran lost because the raison d'etre of their enrichment program is a nuclear weapon.

They are establishing their right to have to enrich. They were almost negotiating for zero before US illegal declaration of war.

No.

If Iran cannot financially support their proxies, or can only partially support, that is a loss. Here is the harsh reality, those proxies, however meager they are supported by Iran, can only serves as target practice for Western weapons development.

That will never happen because those proxies will eventually prop up as long as Israel continues behaving recklessly.

Mmmm...Not really...

If Iran cannot export Islam globally, there is no point for having the IRGC.

Islam will always be exported globally whether Iran is there or not. Islam is universal regardless of race, religion or language. Something you are unable to comprehend.

 

[Master Chief]

They are all important. Nothing happens in a vacuum. History is a continuum. Especially in that place, it is a 5000-year-old story. I have been to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo
Both eye-opening and humbling.

Have the inhabitants of the modern state of Israel had a DNA test yet? Results might also be eye-opening and humbling.

 

[Mobius]

 

[东风夜放花千树]

I'm hoping the Senate changes hands in November.

I hope the world can return to peace, but this wish will not be realized within five years.

The current situation in the United States is that whether the Democrats or the Republicans are in power, they will continue to support or wage wars.

The Democrats support the war between Russia and Ukraine and Israel's inhumane actions.

The Republicans support the US-Iraq war and Israel's inhumane actions.

Now, under the control of these two parties, the United States is like a runaway race car, which will drive the American people into the hell of war.

There is something very strange that I hope you can help me explain.

The seats in the U.S. House of Representatives are: the Republicans have 220 seats, the Democrats have 215 seats. In the 100-seat Senate, the Republicans hold 53 seats, the Democrats hold 45 seats, and the remaining 2 seats are held by nonpartisan members leaning Democratic.

As of January 2025, the United States has at least 55 different eligible voting parties, including 238 state-level parties. In addition, there are more than 420 formally registered parties, with the two largest being the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Is it reasonable for the Democrats and Republicans to monopolize all the seats in this situation?