Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakAl]

China cannot openly support Iran.

Jews control almost all Western media, and the United States also has public opinion hegemony. If China openly supports Iran, Western media will definitely attribute the blame for blockading the strait and damaging the global economy to China.

This will give some politicians controlled by Israel an excuse to help the United States invade Iran.

Usa has Canada, South America, EU, Nato, GCC, Quad, India as allies, in another words they control the world, its financial system and economy. How can people expect China to fight against this for the sake of Iran or anyone else such as Russia. Also China does not have any military or defence alliance with Iran but only economic/trade interests and the western powers will protect this incase of regime change, the same way China trades with Iraq, even more than the Usa.

The only way forward is for Iran to accept Usa demands, for Usa to back off or for China Russia to send a force to the middleeast in the name of protecting the trade route, restoring order and stop this war but the issue again is the western world, GCC and everyone else will turn against Russia China and call them invaders, this will harm Chinese interests in the world and their future growth. For example the Syrian government requested Russian air support to fight against the terorrists and Russia helped them but the Muslim zionist with big beards called Russia evil, the same way they will label China as evil force, all for the sake of their western masters. China is making the right decision, use the back channels to support Iran, support Pakistan effort for a ceasefire and a deal, if both sides decide not to take it then they will fight it off like in Syria until one side surrenders.

 

[Meengla]

How quaint. Her theatrical lament about Pakistan being “sold on the cheap” is touching — but utterly simplistic. She assume Pakistanis are mere pawns to be rented out, when in fact Pakistan have a comprehensive geopolitical calculus that clearly escapes her immaginations. This isn’t desperation; it’s timing. And time, as it happens, is now standing with Pakistan, not against it. So spare us the melodrama about golden palaces and cheap blood. Pakistan is not being sold — it is playing a longer, sharper game than her cartoonish outrage can comprehend.

Right!
And that Tweet was posted here as a sneaky attempt to bring Pakistan's domestic politics into this thread. I wish they stop at least in this thread.
If anything, Pakistan is working with several regional countries to form an alliance against Israel!

 

[ghazi52]

China steps up Iran diplomacy while seeking smooth summit with Trump​

China’s cautious war stance preserved leverage, with Trump crediting Beijing for bringing Iran to Pakistan talks

Reuters
April 17, 2026

Chinese President Xi Jinping attends the closing session of the National People's Congress (NPC) at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China March 12, 2026. REUTERS

China is accelerating its efforts to end the Iran war, walking a diplomatic tightrope as it prepares for a summit next month with US President Donald Trump while trying not to alienate Tehran.

President Xi Jinping's mid-May meeting with Trump is shaping Beijing's approach to the Middle East conflict even as the world's top crude oil importer, reliant on the Middle East for half its fuel, seeks to safeguard its energy supplies, analysts say.

China's modulated approach to the war has protected its back-channel leverage enough that Trump credited Beijing with helping to get Iran to last weekend's peace talks in Pakistan.

 

[ghazi52]

Flurry of Middle East diplomacy

"You've heard President Trump repeatedly mention how the Chinese talked to the Iranians," said Eric Olander, editor-in-chief of the China-Global South Project, an independent organisation that analyses China’s engagement in the developing world. "That puts them in the room with negotiators, even if it's not a seat at the table."

Considering Trump is transactional and susceptible to flattery, China is seeking to advance its goals on trade and its claims on Taiwan at the summit, people familiar with China's thinking told Reuters.

The dominant view in Beijing is to "butter him up, give him a red-carpet welcome and preserve strategic stability", one person said.

China's Foreign Ministry did not respond to questions about its diplomacy ahead of the summit, the first visit by a US president in eight years. Trump says it will take place on May 14 and 15.

 

[ghazi52]

Iran needs China more than China needs Iran, allowing Beijing to press for a ceasefire while protecting the summit with Trump.

"Beijing's ideal outcome," said Drew Thompson, a senior fellow at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, "is the maintenance of no-strings-attached relationships with anti-Western countries like Iran but also preserving its opportunity to achieve some form of modus vivendi with the US"

While China played a role in getting Iran to talk to the US, its ability to shape decisions is limited, as it lacks a military presence in the Middle East capable of backing up its words.

Some observers say China's energetic Middle East diplomacy is more theatre than statecraft.

 

[Meengla]

Iran suspends production of 60% enriched uranium and transfers its stockpile to Pakistan. Iran accepts stricter IEAE inspections. The quantity of enriched uranium ranging from 3.67% to 20% and the number of centrifuges will be subject to upper limits. Iran will effectively lose the ability to manufacture nuclear weapons. In exchange, the United States will unfreeze Iran's overseas assets in stages and gradually lift sanctions on non oil sectors. Oil sector sanctions and financial sanctions serve as leverage for the United States to monitor Iran's compliance with the agreement.

Right. Something like that maybe agreed upon.
I don't know why it is not brought up to what extent Iran was going to go in giving concessions during the 'negotiations' in Oman leading to this war! Where it broke down was the range of the Iranian missiles.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Isnt munir supposed to go to Washington today

andrabi said no
aljazeera redacted it


source

 

[Yasser76]

These aircraft belong to a Nigerian Carrier:
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They are used by Iran to circumvent crippling sanctions imposed on Iran concerning intl flight restrictions of Iranian officials.

Sure, so means either Iran now controls it's own air space or the US is allowing that plane to fly

 

[RocketLaw]

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I think it’s time to replace Zahoor. His cartoons feel outdated since 1970, poor design and low quality, it would be better to have someone with a more modern and educational perspective.

It is high time to fire Zahoor, please someone inform newspaper department to improve new perspective and hire someone better. Thank you!

 

[Yasser76]

Only the UAE has soured its relations with Pakistan. But UAE-Pakistan relations had soured before the war as well. Pakistan is getting closer to Qatar and the KSA right now.

The UAE has no future now, they are having a mass exodus of expats.

Agree, you can see the panic on Linkedin....

 

[Yasser76]

Finally, some good news for India. two European countries with no direct involvement in the affair invite India to possibly have some involvment in the conflict when it is over....

 

[ety]

Finally, some good news for India. two European countries with no direct involvement in the affair invite India to possibly have some involvment in the conflict when it is over....View attachment 192792

Haha, haven't they been complaining that they have no role in this US/Israel and Iran war ? They must feel shamed for their supa powa India. But, try to be a winner in their next war and things may work out.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Iran needs China more than China needs Iran, allowing Beijing to press for a ceasefire while protecting the summit with Trump.

"Beijing's ideal outcome," said Drew Thompson, a senior fellow at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, "is the maintenance of no-strings-attached relationships with anti-Western countries like Iran but also preserving its opportunity to achieve some form of modus vivendi with the US"

While China played a role in getting Iran to talk to the US, its ability to shape decisions is limited, as it lacks a military presence in the Middle East capable of backing up its words.

Some observers say China's energetic Middle East diplomacy is more theatre than statecraft.

There are always people trying to link China with this war.

Can we view China’s relationship with Iran simply as doing business? That is the simplest and most straightforward description.

Since 1989, Westerners and think tanks have used various topics to tarnish China to attract attention. 'China collapse theory,' 'China economic collapse theory,' 'China opportunity theory,' 'China threat theory,' 'China arrogance theory,' and so on.

Now in 2026, the collapse that Westerners and think tanks spoke of has not occurred. China has 'collapsed' into the world's leading industrial power, the fourth military power, and the second largest economy.

We should learn to listen to others' viewpoints and then use the news to think about whether these viewpoints are correct.

First of all, China did not push Iran to accept negotiations. China supports Pakistan in playing a key role for a ceasefire. Many people prefer to believe the lies of Trump rather than the Chinese press conferences.

China has repeatedly refused the U.S. G2 and does not agree to divide the world with the U.S. This year in the first quarter, China–U.S. bilateral trade fell by 16.6% year-on-year, of which China’s exports to the U.S. fell by 16.3%. I have not seen any idea of maintaining some sort of coexistence pattern with the U.S.

As for whether China’s diplomacy in the Middle East is theatrical, a reference country is needed. This reference can only be the U.S. If we say China’s diplomacy in the Middle East is theatrical, then the U.S.’s diplomacy in the Middle East is a war disaster movie. The movie title can be made into three parts: The first part is 'How Dollar Hegemony Was Built,' the second part is 'The Story of Israel the Father and America the Son,' and the third part is 'The Fall of MQ-9 Drones, F15E Fighter Jets, E-3 Early Warning Aircraft, MC-130J Special Operations Aircraft, KC-135 Refueling Aircraft, F35A Fighter Jets, HH-60W Helicopters, MH-6M Helicopters, A-10C Attack Aircraft.'

 

[MH.Yang]

Also China does not have any military or defence alliance with Iran but only economic/trade interests and the western powers will protect this incase of regime change, the same way China trades with Iraq, even more than the Usa.

I understand what you mean, but you're wrong. Trump and Bush are completely different American presidents.

Although Bush has a lower IQ, he is still a qualified and mature politician. And Trump, everyone know he.

After the end of the Iraq War, China did indeed receive the most oil contracts. This is because the Iraqi government is not providing high profit product sharing contracts, but low profit technical service contracts. Western oil companies are not very interested in it. Secondly, the environment in Iraq was not safe at that time, and Western oil companies were unwilling to make risky investments to restore development. So Bush agreed to allow China National Petroleum Corporation to take over the oil contracts in Iraq.

And Trump is a lunatic, he doesn't care about the interests of the occupied territories like Bush does. He would rather have the occupied territories forever in chaos than agree to China taking over the oil contract.

For example, do you know what Venezuela looks like now? After the war, Venezuela's inflation reached 682%, per capita savings decreased to $50, and the minimum monthly wage was 27 cents.

Why has Venezuela become like this? Because after the war, Trump not only plundered all of Venezuela's oil reserves, but also mandated that all of Venezuela's oil revenues must be deposited into a Federal Reserve regulated account and not used without approval from the United States. Trump also banned Venezuela from exporting oil to China, but Venezuela is a super heavy oil that only China and the United States can refine in the world. China no longer purchases Venezuelan oil, and American companies have not increased their purchases. Trump demands Chevron and ExxonMobil to invest in restarting oil wells in Venezuela, restoring production capacity to 2 million barrels. But these American companies are unwilling to invest. Trump also restricted the quantity of Chinese goods imported by Venezuela, which led to a faster deterioration of inflation.

The current situation in Venezuela has proven that Trump and Bush are two completely different types of American presidents. Trump would rather have all the people in the occupied area die than agree to Chinese companies taking over reconstruction orders.




Nationwide protests are erupting in Venezuela:

 

[Persian Gulf]

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