Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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If nato is mainly US and US just told nato it's a paper tiger, that is US admitting it is a paper tiger itself. naor countries were always paper tigers, which is why they sought refuge and security in an alliance with US called nato.
The era of a great US that the world respected and admired are clearly over.
 
DEMANDS ACCEPTED BY AMERICA

14-day complete ceasefire

Allow limited, controlled passage of ships through Strait of Hormuz (under Iranian supervision)

Recognize Iran's right to enrich uranium (will discuss specific levels later)

Agree to lift all primary, secondary and UN sanctions

Agree to pay compensation for damages caused

Agree to withdraw combat forces from the region

Agree to stop all attacks on Iran and its allies



DEMANDS ACCEPTED BY IRAN

14-day complete ceasefire

Open Strait of Hormuz for limited shipping during truce

Commit not to develop nuclear weapons

Agree to discuss details of enrichment levels and inspections

Agree to negotiate peace agreements with regional countries

Agree to extend non-aggression principle to all relevant parties
Sounds fair, close to the framework I had suggested earlier
 
Midterms aren’t going to go well..
Midterms always goes well for the deep zio state.

Americans voting in federal elections reinforces the fascist dictatorship system that manages the country. Democracy is a construct that only exists in the sky of US, and dumbocrats and Republiklans are 2 faces of the same colonizer coin.
 
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Anyone have the full reuters article. I know reuters lately been making lots of exuberant articles on Pak selling fighter jets now this deployment of fighters, we may not know the exact truth but makes fun reading for people like me.
 
Does anyone know which kind of agreement could be achieved?.

I understand that right now it is goes into effect a Ceasefire but US and Irán seems to be pursuing a Peace agreement.

Anyway with such bastards at the other side of the table you need more warrants, so I think at least a Treaty of Peace with US and approved by US Congress will be required. Something that not any US President can break easily.

I know it is wildly unrealistic, but there are not other way to protect from a further aggression.
First an interim framework agreement is likely.

A full deal seems impossible unless Trump drops some of his demands. He is deeply wedded to the idea of zero enrichment, due to Israeli influence. That won’t work.
 
Yeah, but people have only 2 choices.
Though I've not seen any presidential like Hillary Clinton, always venom dripping from her tongue whenever she talks of middle east and muslims.
Actually there's also a third and better choice of not voting.
 
Anyone have the full reuters article. I know reuters lately been making lots of exuberant articles on Pak selling fighter jets now this deployment of fighters, we may not know the exact truth but makes fun reading for people like me.

Pakistan escorted Iranian negotiators home from peace talks amid concerns of Israeli attack, sources say

Reuters Published April 17, 2026 Updated about 6 hours ago

The air force escorted Iranian negotiators home from inconclusive peace talks with the United States last weekend, launching a major operation after the Iranians said Israel might seek to kill them, three sources told Reuters.

Pakistan deployed some two dozen jets in the escort, as well as the force’s Airborne Warning and Control System for aerial surveillance to ensure the safety of the delegation back from Islamabad, said two Pakistani sources with knowledge of the operation.

One said similar security protection would be provided for subsequent talks if the Iranians ask for it, “otherwise Pakistani aircraft would receive them in Pakistan airspace”.

A third source involved in the talks said measures were already in the works ahead of an expected further round of talks as soon as this weekend.
A regional diplomat briefed by Tehran, however, said Pakistan insisted on the escort after Iranian delegates raised the “hypothetical” possibility of a threat.

The discussions with the Iranian delegation about a potential threat while travelling and the presence of a Pakistani air escort into Iran have not previously been reported.

The Israeli prime minister’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Iran’s permanent mission in Geneva did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Pakistan’s air force and military did not respond to questions about the operation. The US embassy in Islamabad did not respond to a request for comment.

“When the talks failed, the Iranians were wary that things had not gone right. It was their suspicion that they might be targeted,” one security source said.

“This was a massive operational mission if you look at it from a pilot’s point of view. You are taking responsibility for a delegation that is coming for talks, you are giving them air cover, you have potent fighters that counter any threat,” he said.

The source involved in the talks, the highest-level engagement between the two countries since 1979, confirmed the air escort but did not provide details about the operation.

“We dropped them all the way to Tehran. Their security was our responsibility even beyond their time here,” the source said.

Sunday’s mission to Iran included Chinese-made J-10 aircraft, the top jet in the air force fleet, one official said.

The Iranian delegation, led by Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi and Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a former military officer and certified pilot, requested the security escort, which goes well beyond normal protocol, the two security sources said.

The regional diplomat said the Iranians did not make a formal request but also did not “rule out the possibility that Israel could even strike the aircraft”, prompting Pakistan to insist on providing a security escort.

The delegation did not land in Tehran, the diplomat said, declining to say where they were dropped off.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said last month, “I wouldn’t issue life insurance policies on any of the leaders of the terrorist organisation,” referring to Iran.

“I don’t intend to provide an exact report here about what we are planning or what we are going to do.”

Since the war began, Israel has assassinated Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, national security chief Ali Larijani, commander of paramilitary force Basij Gholamreza Soleimani, Intelligence Minister Esmail Khatib and other top military commanders.

Shortly before agreeing to a ceasefire last week, US President Donald Trump posted on social media: “A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will.”

Hours after the Iranians and the US delegation, led by Vice President JD Vance, left Pakistan empty-handed, sources told Reuters that dialogue was still alive.

Trump said on Thursday that the war “should be ending pretty soon” and that talks could take place in Islamabad this weekend.
 
Does anyone know which kind of agreement could be achieved?.
I understand that right now it is goes into effect a Ceasefire but US and Irán seems to be pursuing a Peace agreement.

The ambitious plan is to make a comprehensive agreement and that's why the Iranian delegation took 25 specialists including many PhDs to Islamabad in the recent Islamabad Talks. Not only the US sanctions will need removal, which would require the American Congressional vote but also some UNSC sanctions. But the interim agreement could make some easy to give concessions for up to 60 days to finalize the comprehensive agreement.
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Right. From coming Monday through Thursday. Islamabad has unprecedented security due to possibly President Trump himself going there. But there is a hitch: Trump would like to be in the limelight with the Iranian President which the latter may not like. Note Iranians didn't allow joint photos in the recent Islamabad Talks--faces were blurred in the shared photos.

First an interim framework agreement is likely.
A full deal seems impossible unless Trump drops some of his demands. He is deeply wedded to the idea of zero enrichment, due to Israeli influence. That won’t work.

I think there is discussion about 5 years of the Iranian demand vs 20 years of the American demand but even there a possible 12 years compromise and also the language to say Iran has the 'right' to enrich but won't enrich.
 

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