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[Foinikas]

Do you think Turkey cares what they think? lol

Well you'll care what they think about if they plan to send you back to the stone age for getting nukes. lol.

As for the suddenly Pakistan will arrive with gifts of atom,that's a fantasy. Even in strategic partnership,nuclear weapons are not candy to be passed around. Pakistan would also lose leverage as a Muslim nuclear power if a country with the territorial,economic AND diplomatic ambitions becomes the second muslim nuclear nation. It would render Pakistan completely irrelevant.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Israel's strategy has always been the surprise sneak attack. If they can get the "drop" on you, then it is possible which is why surveillance is so important. This is why the F-35 is now so important to their strategy.

 

[Foinikas]

Israel's strategy has always been the surprise sneak attack. If they can get the "drop" on you, then it is possible which is why surveillance is so important. This is why the F-35 is now so important to their strategy.

They could only get Turkey in a big,coordinated sneak attack,that wouldn't take out all or most of the important Turkish bases,defence factories and strategic installations,but probably clear southeast and east off air bases,army depots,major military camps and ports. Enough to send a message and cause them some significant damage.

 

[MMM-E]

Well you'll care what they think about if they plan to send you back to the stone age for getting nukes. lol.

first do it against Iran then come and dream about it against Turkiye

 

[reader2026]

Turkey is a different beast.

 

[MMM-E]

Israel's strategy has always been the surprise sneak attack. If they can get the "drop" on you, then it is possible which is why surveillance is so important. This is why the F-35 is now so important to their strategy.

F-35 is not completely invisible
Turkiye has L and S band AESA Radars to detect the F-35 from 120+ km away

also , ALP-400G is a Turkish V/UHF-band long-range early warning radar being developed by ASELSAN as part of the "Steel Dome" Air Defense Umbrella to detect the F-35s

Turkiye just need to produce more SIPER1/2 Air Defense Systems to protect critical facilities ....Turkiye already doing this, adding 1 SIPER System to their inventory every month, and total of $10 billion deal has been signed to produce Air Defense Systems - AESA Radars

 

[MMM-E]

They could only get Turkey in a big,coordinated sneak attack,that wouldn't take out all or most of the important Turkish bases,defence factories and strategic installations,but probably clear southeast and east off air bases,army depots,major military camps and ports. Enough to send a message and cause them some significant damage.

Turkiye can do it against Israel too for response

Israel is lucky that Iran is 1200-1500 km away from Isreal
and Iran can not use SRBMs and Cruise Missiles with range of 300-500-800 km against Israel

but Turkiye can fire 300-500-800 km Ballistic and Cruise Missiles to hit military and strategic facilities in Haifa , Tel Aviv , Nevatim , etc

from Hatay to Haifa : 400 km
from Hatay to Tel Aviv : 474 km

from Northern Cyprus to Israel is more closer .....
to use Ships to fire Ballistic Missiles from the eastern Mediterranean too
Also Turkiye has 234 F-16s , 4 E-7T AEWCs ,etc while Iran lacks Air Force

Also , It is very difficult for Iran to reach Israel by land, but the distance between the Turkish Army and Israel is only 500 km.

better dont provoke the 2nd biggest fire power in NATO after USA


Two weeks ago you were asking where is TAYFUN Block-4 ? . Well, here it is!

it can be armed with THERMOBARİC warhead for more destruction
Gazap’s thermobaric blast reaches 5,432°F (3,000°C) delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold


Also , CENK hypersonic MRBM on the way which can not be stopped by PATRIOT , BARAK-MX and DAVID's SLING

BORA , TAYFUN-1/2 , SOM , 300-ER , K-2 , SUPER SIMSEK , ATMACA-UM , GEZGIN are extra fire power

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Israel does not have enough ARROW-3 missiles
even USA currently can produce only 8 THAAD Missiles per month

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Israel does not have enough ARROW-3 missiles
even USA currently can produce only 8 THAAD Missiles per month

American interceptor production rates are going to go up very significantly, so something to track.

The question is how active will the USA be in supporting an Israeli war against Turkieye.

 

[MMM-E]

American interceptor production rates are going to go up very significantly, so something to track.

The goal is to increase annual production of THAAD Missile to 400 units within 7 years
( as of 2032-2033 )

but , within 7 years, Turkiye will have already reached another level.

Let's not let Israel a sandwich be left between Iran and Turkiye; Israel should be careful.

It would be in Israel's best interest not to make Türkiye an enemy.

 

[LeonBlack08]

I like Tucker and we all know the kind of evil Netanyahu is,but come on man...you gonna quote someone,don't be Kasparyan,there's lots of serious people who are vocal about Israel's crimes.

It's a news report. She pulled out statements from Israeli politicians trying to vilify Turkey as the next target. It absolutely doesn't matter who she is. I am not quoting her or discussing her opinions, but putting up her report which contains facts.

Just focus on the content of the news report, which is relevant to this thread.

 

[Foinikas]

first do it against Iran then come and dream about it against Turkiye

Oh you think Turkey is special for them? You think if the world goes to some kind of WWIII Turkey will be spared? You've been giving them a lot of trouble and you've been double-crossing them for years. They ignore that now,but at some point they will have enough of it.

 

[hyperman]

Well you'll care what they think about if they plan to send you back to the stone age for getting nukes. lol.

As for the suddenly Pakistan will arrive with gifts of atom,that's a fantasy. Even in strategic partnership,nuclear weapons are not candy to be passed around. Pakistan would also lose leverage as a Muslim nuclear power if a country with the territorial,economic AND diplomatic ambitions becomes the second muslim nuclear nation. It would render Pakistan completely irrelevant.

You don't know what you are talking about. lol, I'd like to see any of these mofos try to send Turkey to the "Stone Age".

And your calculation about Pakistan is incorrect, as if its trying to prevent a second Muslim nuclear state, or that it loses leverage.

Idk if you are aware Foiny, but Nuclear Weapons sharing agreements exist already in the world. Turkey is actually a weapons sharing state as part of NATO, and Belarus recently signed a similar agreement with Russia. If there ever came a time where that status changed, and Turkey couldn't depend on NATO, Turkey would seek that umbrella elsewhere.

 

[Foinikas]

It's a news report. She pulled out statements from Israeli politicians trying to vilify Turkey as the next target. It absolutely doesn't matter who she is. I am not quoting her or discussing her opinions, but putting up her report which contains facts.

Just focus on the content of the news report, which is relevant to this thread.

I understand what you're saying and in terms of strategy,I mean if you really look at it from a survival point,it only makes sense that Turkey is next. Because they know that if Turkey keeps getting stronger,with the current administration,with the current leaders it has,the Israelis will have big problems.

But then again,I won't be surprised if they both become friends and have some sort of deal for Turkey to expand westwards and to Africa and Israel eastwards and the levant.

 

[MMM-E]

Oh you think Turkey is special for them? You think if the world goes to some kind of WWIII Turkey will be spared? You've been giving them a lot of trouble and you've been double-crossing them for years. They ignore that now,but at some point they will have enough of it.

We dont care about Israel and Greece ... they are nothing without USA


1 -- Turkiye and Europe are allies
and they need Turkiye against Russian threat

2 -- Turkiye and USA are working in Syria
The last US soldier has left the Hasake region of Syria a few days ago

Given the nature of the US-Türkiye and Europe-Turkiye relationships, what will happen is clear: they will never go to war under NATO alliance

Also, a new alliance is emerging .. Muslim Countries are so angry against Israel's illegal actions

 

[Foinikas]

You don't know what you are talking about. lol, I'd like to see any of these mofos try to send Turkey to the "Stone Age".

Why? You couldn't shoot down three ballistic missiles(or was it four?)on your own. What makes you think you're so special?

If there ever came a time where that status changed, and Turkey couldn't depend on NATO, Turkey would seek that umbrella elsewhere.

1.That doesn't mean you can use American nukes for own purposes and especially against Israel.
2.Until you seek that "umbrella" elsewhere,it might take time. Russia is the biggest nuclear power,did they provide a nuclear umbrella for Iran?