Turkey Greece Relations and Maritime Disputes

[Foinikas]

We dont care about Israel and Greece ... they are nothing without USA

You don't care,but that's all you talk about. All morning today you've been yapping about Yunan ve Israil.

1 -- Turkiye and Europe are allies
and they need Turkiye against Russian threat

2 -- Turkiye and USA are working in Syria
The last US soldier has left the Hasake region of Syria a few days ago

Given the nature of the US-Türkiye and Europe-Turkiye relationships, what will happen is clear: they will never go to war under NATO alliance

You do know all that can change easily,right? Especially with this US administration and the fragmentations in the EU.

 

[MMM-E]

You don't care,but that's all you talk about. All morning today you've been yapping about Yunan ve Israil.

I am showing you that Greeks chase after impossible dreams, and then they cry when they get beaten up by the Turks

Greece has another dream with Israel against Turkiye

but , We dont care about Greece+Israel combined in the eastern Mediterranean

NO EASTMED project between Israel-Greek Cypriots-Greece
NO Electrical cable project between Israel-Greek Cypriots-Greece

and the Turkish Navy always blocked Greek-Israeli Ships to protect Turkiye's and Turkish Cypriot's rights

 

[Foinikas]

I am showing you that Greeks chase after impossible dreams, and then they cry when they get beaten up by the Turks

What are the impossible dreams? Figuring out diplomatic or defensive alliances to counter a bully who thinks he should be in charge of the whole region?

We dont care about Greece+Israel combined in the eastern Mediterranean

You don't care,but every week and every month your TV programs,your analysts and your politicians nag about Greek-Israeli ...."alliance" or "friendship".

You,personally,also used to say you didn't care about Iran,but Iran scored 4 ballistic missiles over your territory,which your forces couldn't shoot down and you wouldn't even protect Qatar against Iranian Shahed 136 and cruisse missiles.

You don't care,you don't care,but half your posts as MMM-E contain some kind of insult towards Greece.

@ShapurII I can show you

 

[MMM-E]

In 10 years it will be too late for the Israelis to defeat Turkey,if Turkey continues at this pace and I think they know them. But man,Turkey doesn't need much of vilification in the region,

France and the US did not give Greece the green light
Greece's last hope is now Israel

The Greeks who think they can use Israel for their own interests.
with their small brain Greeks will be crushed in the middle while the big powers fighting as like 1919-1922 period

Israel can not match with Turkiye .... today or tomorrow
if Israel launches an attack, then gets a heavy blow in a long war.

 

[Foinikas]

France and the US did not give Greece the green light
Greece's last hope is now Israel

The Greeks who think they can use Israel for their own interests.
with their small brain Greeks will be crushed in the middle while the big powers fighting as like 1919-1922 period

Israel can not match with Turkiye .... today or tomorrow
if Israel launches an attack, then gets a heavy blow in a long war.

Green light for what? Get out of your delusions,man. Do you actually believe that Greece wants a war with Turkey? Who the heck spreads such rumors on your media?

Stop repeating 1919-1922. Unless you want me to start talking about 1912 non-stop.

You're stuck in 1919-1922,I told you like 3 or 4 times since yesterday that you have to stop living 100 years in the past,you still don't get it.

 

[MMM-E]

Fidan perhaps forgot about his own country's major role in de-stabilizing Syria for 12 years and the meddling of Turkey in Libya,Sudan and Nagorno-Karabakh.

Despite the usual narrative by Erdogan,Fidan and others of "we only want peace,we only want to end conflicts",everything is done for profit,influence and geopolitical gain,

What a provocateur with full of lies and anti-Turkiye propaganda


Türkiye stood on the right side in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and Sudan

-- Turkiye saved Syria and Syrian People from invaders and terrorists
-- Turkiye saved legal Libyan government from illegal actors and bandit Countries

-- Turkiye helped Azerbaijan to liberate occupied lands from Armenia

-- Turkiye is helping Sudan against Israel-The UAE terrorism
Türkiye's official position is to defend Sudan's unity, sovereignty, and territorial integrity. It rejects RSF's "militia" structure and parallel organizations

Türkiye is being targeted now , because Turkiye is disrupting the dirty plans of these evil actors everywhere

 

[MMM-E]

Green light for what? Get out of your delusions,man. Do you actually believe that Greece wants a war with Turkey? Who the heck spreads such rumors on your media?

The Greeks started wars/conflicts in 1919 , 1974 , 1996
Fools who fell for Israel's provocations.
Greeks've gotten spoiled again, you'll get what's coming to you.

A banner displayed by EOKA terror organization-affiliated groups in Southern Cyprus has sparked widespread outrage. The banner, written in Greek, reportedly read, "Next year we will celebrate Easter in Girne." which is effectively under the administration of the TRNC.

HULUSI AKAR
"It will be your last Easter"


Greek Defense Minister DENDIAS " TIME FOR TURKISH TROOPS TO WITHDRAW FROM CYPRUS "

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[hyperman]

The Greeks started wars/conflicts in 1919 , 1974 , 1996
Fools who fell for Israel's provocations.
Greeks've gotten spoiled again, you'll get what's coming to you.

A banner displayed by EOKA terror organization-affiliated groups in Southern Cyprus has sparked widespread outrage. The banner, written in Greek, reportedly read, "Next year we will celebrate Easter in Girne." which is effectively under the administration of the TRNC.

HULUSI AKAR
"It will be your last Easter"
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Greek Defense Minister DENDIAS " TIME FOR TURKISH TROOPS TO WITHDRAW FROM CYPRUS "

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Time for Baldy to get a hair transplant. lol

 

[Foinikas]

The Greeks started wars/conflicts in 1919 , 1974 , 1996
Fools who fell for Israel's provocations.
Greeks've gotten spoiled again, you'll get what's coming to you.

You're the provocateur here. You're the one starting wars.

A banner displayed by EOKA terror organization-affiliated groups in Southern Cyprus has sparked widespread outrage. The banner, written in Greek, reportedly read, "Next year we will celebrate Easter in Girne." which is effectively under the administration of the TRNC.

Wow,imagine if some cCc raises a banner saying "Next year in Selanik" or "Ramazan in Ikrit next year",if Dendias or Gerapetritis posted on X "It will be your last Ramazan",the fury and anger in Turkey would be crazy. Think about that. Put your head to work.

 

[MMM-E]

Wow,imagine if some cCc raises a banner saying "Next year in Selanik" or "Ramazan in Ikrit next year",if Dendias or Gerapetritis posted on X "It will be your last Ramazan",the fury and anger in Turkey would be crazy. Think about that. Put your head to work.

What nonsense are you talking about again ?
Turks did not say we will celebrate Ramazan in Selanik or in Larnaca

but Greek Cypriots said that we will celebrate easter in GIRNE which is belong to Turkish Cypriot side ... That means we will kill the Turks and celebrate easter in Turkish areas in Cyprus


Bloody Christmas refers to the clashes that took place on the night of dec 20-21, 1963, initiated by Greek Cypriots against Turkish Cypriots. The attacks were carried out in accordance with the Akritas Plan and aimed at the elimination of Turks from the island. A total of 364 Turkish Cypriots died in the events.

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Also Greek Defense Minister DENDIAS said that " TIME FOR TURKISH TROOPS TO WITHDRAW FROM CYPRUS "

how ? without war ? or with war
I forgot , Greeks dont want war

 

[MMM-E]

Time for Baldy to get a hair transplant. lol

Baldy gained courage when French-German-Italian-Spanish-etc Warships arrived in Cyprus

If Greeks find a supporter behind them, they will immediately attack the Turks in Cyprus

 

[Foinikas]

What nonsense are you talking about again ?
Turks did not say we will celebrate Ramazan in Selanik or in Larnaca

Do you understand the concept of hypothesis? Tired of having to school you all day.

If Greeks find a supporter behind them, they will immediately attack the Turks in Cyprus

Masturbatory fantasies of warmonger Turkish former-generals who feed such scenarios to the Turkish public and low-IQ people go on forums repeating such idiotic fearmongering.

 

[Foinikas]

Anger in Ankara over Greece–Israel–Cyprus cooperation and concern over US support​

Turkey is attempting to incorporate Greek-Turkish relations and the Cyprus issue into the new geopolitical competition taking shape after the war against Iran. Its goal is to break up the Athens–Tel Aviv–Nicosia axis, while it is particularly concerned about the unwavering support of the United States for Israel​

Ankara is trying to entangle Greek-Turkish relations and the Cyprus issue in the murky landscape of the new regional rivalry in the Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean between Turkey and Israel, in the aftermath of the war against Iran, which is reshaping regional balances and power dynamics.

Its aim is to prevent the continuation of Greece–Cyprus–Israel cooperation, which also enjoys US backing, as it believes this trilateral format forms a strong axis in the Eastern Mediterranean that could obstruct its own revisionist and expansionist ambitions.

At the same time, it strengthens Israel on the Eastern Mediterranean front, while Ankara and Tel Aviv test each other’s resilience in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and the Horn of Africa.

The war in Iran disrupted Turkey’s plans, as it cannot fully distance itself from Iran, nor openly side with it.

The Turkish leadership handled the Iran war by targeting Israel, promoting a supposed mediating role it could play, while also projecting its leadership profile in the Muslim world and almost unilaterally taking up the “holy war” against Israel.

However, it now sees clearly the choice of President Donald Trump to support and align with Israel. This causes significant concern in Ankara, as despite Trump’s positive remarks about Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, serious pending issues remain in bilateral relations.

“Encirclement”

Even with the gradual withdrawal of US forces from Syria, Ankara observes that the field is not left open. Instead, Israel, with US backing, is imposing its own rules there as well.

Israel has also declared that it will not allow the presence of foreign or non-friendly forces on Syrian territory, complicating Ankara’s plans.

Trump will soon face dilemmas, as once the situation with Iran is clarified, he will have to balance between two of the closest US allies: Turkey, a NATO member, and Israel.

In this context, Turkey is trying to strengthen its diplomatic position and, using Gaza and Lebanon as a binding factor, has coordinated with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, although this relationship has not yet evolved into a real alliance—something that would significantly alter Eastern Mediterranean balances and directly affect Greek interests.

Turkey is no longer hiding its concern over Greece–Cyprus–Israel cooperation, openly claiming that Israel is using the two countries to encircle it.

This adds a new dimension to Greek-Turkish and Turkish-Cypriot relations, as Greece and Cyprus are now included among perceived threats to Turkey’s security.

As a result, the already heavy Greek-Turkish agenda is further burdened with the notion of a supposed threat from Greece and Cyprus stemming from cooperation with Israel.

Forces in Cyprus and Patriot systems

In recent weeks, Turkey has faced developments it interprets as faits accomplis against it. The deployment of Greek and other European forces in Cyprus sent an initial message that the island is an integral part of what Europe considers European territory, for which Article 42.7 of the Lisbon Treaty on mutual defence may apply, even informally.

This provision can be implemented through a “coalition of the willing,” where Turkey does not have veto power, unlike NATO Article 5.

Turkey’s objections to the deployment of Patriot systems in Karpathos and F-16s in Lemnos also fell flat, directly challenging its demands for demilitarisation of the islands.

Ankara understands that this “temporary” redeployment of forces will last for a significant period, as regional threats will not disappear even after a potential peace agreement with Iran.

President Erdoğan’s “recommendation” last Thursday that the presence of European forces in Cyprus, deployed due to the Iran war, “should not become permanent” reflects Ankara’s concern over the new realities. Similar statements regarding Karpathos and Lemnos are not expected to surprise, though Greece has rejected them, stressing that its defence posture is a sovereign right.

Concerns over provocations

According to diplomatic sources, rising public debate in Turkey following Greek military movements in Karpathos and Lemnos is being closely monitored by Athens, to prevent any attempt by “private actors” to provoke incidents on the islands, which Turkey claims should be demilitarised—something that has previously triggered serious crises.

What has caused even greater irritation in Ankara is the advancement, even during the Iran war, of Greek-Israeli defence agreements (following Cyprus’ agreement on the Barak MX missile system), including the contract for 36 PULS multiple rocket launcher systems, which are part of the “Achilles Shield,” as well as expected agreements for Barak MX and other Israeli systems.

These systems will significantly strengthen Greece’s deterrence capability in sensitive areas such as the islands. At the same time, technology transfer and joint production with Israel are expected to lay strong foundations for Greece’s defence industry.

Turkey also believes that US support for Greece and Cyprus is influenced by the Israeli lobby in Washington.

In this context, Ankara is intensifying its rhetoric against Israel, and by extension against Greece and Cyprus, aiming to shape a negative perception of both countries among US political circles critical of Israel.

Gulf countries

Turkey’s approach also seeks to undermine Greece’s strong ties with Gulf states.

However, the UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait are unwilling to follow Ankara’s geopolitical ambitions, while Saudi Arabia remains cautious, as its main concern is now Iran rather than Israel.

Saudi Arabia’s experience in practice has shown that protection of its oil facilities in Yanbu was ensured not by Turkish, Pakistani, or Egyptian missiles, but by Greek Patriot systems.

Greece, meanwhile, has publicly distanced itself from certain Israeli policies in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon, clearly separating its strategic relationship with Israel from specific government actions.

Unprepared for missile threats

For Turkey, another major challenge is the attempt by President Trump to weaken NATO. The Iran war exposed weaknesses in Turkey’s defence posture, as it was unprepared for missile attacks and relied on NATO for air defence.

Europe is seeking to fill potential gaps, but Turkey’s participation in such frameworks is neither easy nor widely desired among European states.

At the same time, Ankara is closely watching Greece’s involvement in these processes, as well as its strong defence ties with France.

Anger in Ankara over Greece–Israel–Cyprus cooperation and concern over US support - ProtoThema English

Turkey is attempting to incorporate Greek-Turkish relations and the Cyprus issue into the new geopolitical competition taking shape after the war against Iran. Its goal is to break up the Athens–Tel Aviv–Nicosia axis, while it is particularly concerned about the unwavering support of the United...

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[MMM-E]

Do you understand the concept of hypothesis? Tired of having to school you all day.

Your hypothesis is without a logical proposition.

don't imagine things that don't exist
I'm telling you about things that have already happened

and educate yourself before you start rambling
zero knowledge ....

Masturbatory fantasies of warmonger Turkish former-generals who feed such scenarios to the Turkish public and low-IQ people go on forums repeating such idiotic fearmongering.

I wasn't talking about former Greek generals with masturbatory fantasies on TV and exciting the low IQ people with their nonsense


Greek Defense Minister DENDIAS said that " TIME FOR TURKISH TROOPS TO WITHDRAW FROM CYPRUS " after he gained courage when French-German-Italian-Spanish-etc Warships arrived in Cyprus

both fools and excessive dreamers

 

[MMM-E]

Unprepared for missile threats

For Turkey, another major challenge is the attempt by President Trump to weaken NATO. The Iran war exposed weaknesses in Turkey’s defence posture, as it was unprepared for missile attacks and relied on NATO for air defence.

Europe is seeking to fill potential gaps, but Turkey’s participation in such frameworks is neither easy nor widely desired among European states.

At the same time, Ankara is closely watching Greece’s involvement in these processes, as well as its strong defence ties with France.

What a lunatic People
What kind of fantasy world are you living in ?

Your idiotic media only fools those with low IQ People

a-) both Iran and Greece can not stop Turkish Ballistic Missiles
at least , Turkiye has S400s with anti Ballistic capability

and Turkiye develops its own SIPER-3/4/5 Air Defense Systems to intercept Ballistic Missiles


b-) Iran and Greece dont have technology to develop anti-Balistic Missile
even , Iran - Greece dont have anti-Ballistic Defense System for MRBMs