Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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They fail to realize that it's possible to oppose the current system while also being against the US-Israeli bombings in Iran. This is not a contradiction. I swear, every single time I talk to them, I completely diasgree with these people. They immediately ask in return if I'm an Erdogan fanboy. lol

In Germany, they don't interact with the broader Middle Eastern diaspora; not even with those who are anti-IRI ideologically. They either socialize exclusively with Germans or stay within their own community.
 
MH.Yang said:
You might be the person in the world who believes in Trump the most.
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What does he gain by lying about that?

He, as the POTUS, says it's true, and there's some public evidence supporting that he's telling the truth in this particular case. Unless there's some evidence against it, I don't see any reason for thinking he's lying.
 
ShapurII said:
What does he gain by lying about that?

He, as the POTUS, says it's true, and there's some public evidence supporting that he's telling the truth in this particular case. Unless there's some evidence against it, I don't see any reason for thinking he's lying.
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He lied to pretend that China is supporting his war. Just like he wants to visit China during the war.
 
well this war and all this blockades are starting to have affects on every country out there:

the EU is about to run out of jet-fuel very oon

Bangladesh, SL, Thailand, Phillipines etc already rationing fuel supplies and there are long lineups for fuel stations

World economy about to get into depression due to lack of fuel
Good luck going anywhere!

Soon this will hit north america as well, fast walking into a WW3 type scenario when countries fight over fuel and food supplies

soon the negotiations will be useless if the world economy tanks, it won't revive if it all shuts down......more wars and conflicts will happen, good luck i guess.
 
MH.Yang said:
He lied to pretend that China is supporting his war. Just like he wants to visit China during the war.
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When did he say that China supported his war? I'm not sure if we're on the same page.

He said that China helped him convince Iran to accept the ceasefire. How does that imply that China supported his war?
 
Frogen said:
Everyone knows Iran blocked the strait for self-preservation, but that strategy basically drags the whole world down with them. People might sympathize with Iran while the economy is still holding up, but once everyone starts complaining, Iran risks becoming the target of universal condemnation. It's a real possibility. That’s why Iran had to show that they’ve done everything possible for peace—to make sure the US and Israel look like the real villains who pushed things this far. That’s the whole point of that earlier ceasefire.

Think about the terms Iran demanded during the talks—most of them are things the US would find extremely hard to accept. So why did the Iranian leadership agree to a ceasefire anyway? It’s clearly a calculated strategic move.

Iran must have anticipated being blockaded by the US when they first shut down the strait. Now that the US has actually taken the lead in the blockade, if the global economy starts to collapse, the world will blame the US instead of Iran.
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The US agreed to none of Iran's terms as we saw just 12 hours after the ceasefire.

The US doesn't care much about whether the world blame them or not.
 
Eşbah said:
They fail to realize that it's possible to oppose the current system while also being against the US-Israeli bombings in Iran. This is not a contradiction. I swear, every single time I talk to them, I completely diasgree with these people. They immediately ask in return if I'm an Erdogan fanboy. lol

In Germany, they don't interact with the broader Middle Eastern diaspora; not even with those who are anti-IRI ideologically. They either socialize exclusively with Germans or stay within their own community.
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They aren't Iranian... they have been brainwashed to such an extent that they no longer realize what's at stake.
 
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ShapurII said:
When did he say that China supported his war? I'm not sure if we're on the same page.

He said that China helped him convince Iran to accept the ceasefire. How does that imply that China supported his war?
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Of course he wouldn't say that, he would only hint. If he says so, the Chinese government will definitely refute him as soon as possible. Trump will only say time and time again, 'China is my good friend, we have a good relationship,' and then talk about the Iran war or trade war.
 
ShapurII said:
When did he say that China supported his war? I'm not sure if we're on the same page.

He said that China helped him convince Iran to accept the ceasefire. How does that imply that China supported his war?
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I can also tell you.

All Middle Eastern oil exporting countries, except Saudi Arabia, will have their oil economy killed by the green ammonia economy. And this war will greatly accelerate the progress of death.


The power industry based on green ammonia, including EV, AI, drones, high-speed rail, robots, photovoltaics, soilless cultivation, low altitude economy and other power industries, will inevitably be the economic core of future human civilization. Destroying the global oil industry through war will only help accelerate the development of the power industry.
 
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ME weather is changing ....can bring 1 million this not right weather to fight the war for foreign forces,.... moderate weather is 80 F in the evening ...
 
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