I don't know man,it feels like the forum changed

It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
dont worry brother us indians know how you feel. We share 10000+ years history, parthenon was actually hanuman temple, where ram used to train his great espesial forces. You greeks used to worship Krishna (Zues) no? I also love greek garrls, bold and butiful, thank you very much. We should unite against these Mujlims, turkeys and pakistanis, with our brother Ijrail we are all same in trying to elemeniate peacefuls.

One thing, you government should accept many indian warkers to help build your failing economy. We will help you fix it with are skilled expertise in technology and it solutions and studies.
 
@Foinikas

don't leave bro, we need greek representation on the forum, even if it sometimes causing disagreements with afew others.
Trust me, u won't find such forum elsewhere.
Stay and keep doing what you do. It's all good and we welcome alternate viewpoints.
 
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
Good luck wherever you go.
My actions as moderator are "within " the rules of the forum.
 
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
Don't be upset mate. You’re not alone as a Greek I'm sure most Pakistanis feel the same way. I do not blame moderators as they are in difficult positions, especially those who are sitting in Pakistan. Sometimes their families are even put in danger by the current regime. You are a valuable friend and contributor.
 
This is the actual problem. People made imran khan issue bigger than Pakistan's existence. He's just a man who wouldn't exist after 15 years, same goes for zardari, nawaz, shehbaz and so many others.

Youthiya cult literally look at everything through khans lens and that negativity bleeds into all topics. Pakistani awaam can't genuinely separate emotions from realpolitik. Half the members here are retarded boomers with weird idealist black and white perception. Whereas the world works in the grey on a spectrum with nothing to with religion, morals and Imran khan chutar.

This was also one of the reason thebold forum was nuked.
There problem is justice. The problem is standing up for what is right. I can clearly see from what you write that you have no sense of right and wrong. This is not about Imran Khan; it is about fighting against the system that has brought us all this misery over the last 75 years. I hope people like you grow mature enough to understand what is right and what is wrong. We are not alone in this world.
 
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And there you go. There jumps Yasser to talk trash about me again. Bravo. Make up your mind if you like my posts or you don't. If I'm a zio-zio or a normal human.

No one mentioned anything about your posts or politics, calm down, try and man up. If things upset you so much dont cry for attention on here just leave. It is as boring as it is transparent....
 
Old school forums are in declination for many years. New generations prefer social media and chat groups instead of legacy BBS, forums.

A lot of forums booming 20 + years ago are no more today. Some survivors see their daily activities miserable. PDF performs relatively well, so maybe the growing popularity discomforts you.
 
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
Hold your shit bro Spartans never quit.
 
This forum is corporate and sanitized now. It doesn't have a community feel anymore, it just feels like a bureaucratic machine going through the motions.
 

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