Islamabad Talks - News & Discussions

[hasn2009]

Iran is surely not the aggressor but clearly everyone in the region is sick of Iranian proxies. It's happening because of Iranian proxies. What's the role of vahidi in selecting new government in Iraq? World is not fool. Iran actually sent back ships from hormuz after declaring it open. After that, trump had no option but to start naval blockade.

Iran is not innocent. Thousands die in gaza due to Israeli bombs, thanks to Hezbollah and hamas attack on October 7th. Did Iran paid the price? No. It's Gaza that was destroyed.

Arabs helped Pakistan in difficult times so we can't leave Arabs for Iran. We tried to help Iran but enough is enough.

Iran can never be trusted. I am sure Iran will attack Pakistan this time because it will be a long war. It's not possible for Iran to attack Arabs but not attack Pakistan. Pakistan played nicely but even Pakistan don't trust irgc.

Well Arabs are wrong to give airbases to united states but seriously why they trust Iran? What if Iran makes a nuclear missile? Is it not possible for Iran to fire nuclear missile on Riyadh? I am sure they will fire one so yes nobody trusts Iran now. Pakistan has given chance but irgc is running a different show and irgc can't be trusted.

I am not against Iran. I don't like irgc.

Good that you have standards set that you don't like Iran because of its proxies.

But why don't hold arabs against the same standards? Don't you know what these arab countries are doing in Yemen, Sudan, Somalia and other African countries?

And, hezbollah didnt attack Israel on 7th October, rather, Hezbollah/Iran were mad at Hamas for not telling them before this action. Hezbollah only joined later to save Gazans from genocide, and sacrifised their whole leadership for the sake of Gazans.

Your information is very incorrect when you say hezbollah attacked Israel on 7th October.

I was going to respond to all of your points, but i am going to stop here because you have, incorrect information, unjust standards. And yes, your post reeks of hatred of Iran.

 

[Oscar]

Agree with your last paragraph.. however you are pinning too much hope for a revolt within by the gen z and millennials....this farce is going to end within weeks one way or the other... nukes are not needed to make Iranian surrender .....what you are watching right now is the last act of the the drama before the curtain call.

You're mistaken that I am referring to some revolt - it will just be a slight tilt but enough to push majority to dems in midterms.

 

[StormBreaker]

You're mistaken that I am referring to some revolt - it will just be a slight tilt but enough to push majority to dems in midterms.

Where do you think the situation is headed? Is it over?

 

[Oscar]

Where do you think the situation is headed? Is it over?

Trump has been attacked by an unknown assailant - the US military has moved more weapon and supporting aircraft into the region than at the start of the war.
Trump's art of the deal is turning into Bibi's "attack Iran or we disclose how you slept with a 8 year old".

 

[I*R*A]

Oman was much more discrete and professional than us. They didn't treat it like a wedding event.

Ali Khamenei was alive back then, there were no bombs being dropped on iran and their leadership wasn't a target.

Plus Oman wasn't able to stop US & israel from attacking Iran mid negotiations, Pakistan on the other hand has achieved ceasefire and extension (twice).

From cheerleading iranians to their death to mocking your own country?

 

[Fatman17]

According to Trump 2 drafts forwarded by Pakistan were not good enough to send a team to Islamabad.
Tensions mounting.

 

[Cipher212]

Ali Khamenei was alive back then, there were no bombs being dropped on iran and their leadership wasn't a target.

Plus Oman wasn't able to stop US & israel from attacking Iran mid negotiations, Pakistan on the other hand has achieved ceasefire and extension (twice).

From cheerleading iranians to their death to mocking your own country?

No idea what you mean by last line.

If the US or Israel really wanted to murk Aragchi or Ghalibaf they'd have done it by now. Iran has been terrible at protecting its VIPs.

The fact that you actually believe Pakistan 'achieved' this ceasefire is just laughable. Begani shaadi me Abdullah diwana.

 

[I*R*A]

I don't know why so many here are ignoring analysts after analysts saying that Iran has gained the upper hand.

That analysis is in the current time, sure iranian regime has survived the collapse but their actions from here on carry cost and consequences for many who are not involved in this war. Will the rest of the world be okay and able to digest it in next 6 months?

iranians had a window of opportunity, get the sanctions removed, focus on economy first, drag it that way and in that direction. Lock others economic interests with your peace and survival.

I am not sure which idiot analyst thinks that iran has been able to inflict any significant damage on American soil or even the zionist state. They are playing right into the hands of zionists.

 

[I*R*A]

If the US or Israel really wanted to murk Aragchi or Ghalibaf they'd have done it by now. Iran has been terrible at protecting its VIPs.

So why haven't they? Either Aragchi and Ghalibaf are their minions or some one has convinced the Americans that two are needed alive.

The fact that you actually believe Pakistan 'achieved' this ceasefire is just laughable. Begani shaadi me Abdullah diwana.

Okay zionists were convinced on their own to stop killing iranians and to extend that cease killing for few more weeks.

 

[Sparten]

Oman was much more discrete and professional than us. They didn't treat it like a wedding event.

Self-loathing. Oman is an absolute monarchy. We, despite militarys recent attepst are still a democacry in theory at least.

 

[Cipher212]

So why haven't they? Either Aragchi and Ghalibaf are their minions or some one has convinced the Americans that two are needed alive.



Okay zionists were convinced on their own to stop killing iranians and to extend that cease killing for few more weeks.

You drank too much ''Pakistan is king of diplomacy" kool-aid.

 

[Cipher212]

Self-loathing. Oman is an absolute monarchy. We, despite militarys recent attepst are still a democacry in theory at least.

what does that have to do with professional and discrete. Pakistanis are gossip queens. As we have seen during these negotiations.

 

[iron shrapnel]

Self-loathing. Oman is an absolute monarchy. We, despite militarys recent attepst are still a democacry in theory at least.

Or at the very least we get a different monarch every now and then

 

[Fatman17]

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[Pak-Warrior]

Trump is in his self created dilemma because he has for million times bashed Obama's deal as "Worst ever". So now he wants exit but he also wants a better deal than Obama's.

Trump will go for war if not offered something he could brag about. Considering US military has beefed up numbers in the region. If deal has to be made then Iran have to open strait of hormuz as a free passage. Tolls will never be accepted.

I think following can work, if both sides climb down to reasonable position:

- Strait of hormuz to be completely open, US blockade needs to be lifted.
- HEU "nuclear dust" to be diluted or sealed whatever.
- No nuclear weapon commitment.
- All Sanctions to be lifted from Iran.