PTI news, updates and discussions part ll
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Goenitz
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I was born in Zhob. Last visited in 1996. Now, all my Punjabi family have moved since 2006-7. Sadly, we need to migrate from there.
LC150
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Irfan Baloch
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A school friend of mine had to sell their family business and move to lahore.. his family been in Balochistan for over 300 years but since he was a rajput this family was targeted.
. people in punjab shedding bucket loads of tears for mehram baloch and BLA leadeds and cursing Pakistan army really live in a parallel universe. where a selective criticism and hypocracy is solution to a problem.
our mainstream political party followers must spare some time and thoughts for the victim families instead of using them for politics and if its hard to go to bed without cursing army then also do the same for elements funding terrorists.
mythbuster
SpeedLimited
Your so called usurpers are having a time of their life and your cult leader is now out of sight and getting out of people's minds.
Irfan Baloch
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
this is best response to all posts on social media that are pro army.
because its civilised and doesn't give Afghans and Indians to troll Pakistanis.
Olympus81
Trusted Member
This applies universally.
Uncles, aunties, every God damn person needs to digest the forwarded messages, validate, imply the underlying message, do proper due diligence before forwarding such messages.
The world is f-cked beyond recognition as a result of information overload, memes, fake news.
Uncles, aunties, every God damn person needs to digest the forwarded messages, validate, imply the underlying message, do proper due diligence before forwarding such messages.
The world is f-cked beyond recognition as a result of information overload, memes, fake news.
Cipher212
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Well to be honest no one. Fauj could maybe do it but deep deep down (and this is not a dig at them) they are part of the status quo.
In 'flattening' society the Haves would lose considerable leverage against the Have-Nots. Difficult to incentivise doing such boring and unrewarding work that would not yield results for decades
If a political party pulled it off perfectly even then they'd have nothing to show for at least ten years. Awaam would ask where are the lightaan, roadaan, pull and underpass on which they can drive their bikes.
Pakistanithinktank
Registered Member
When you look at the history, it’s actually very simple. For years, the establishment kept propping up the same corrupt political actors in Balochistan instead of investing in people, services, or real governance. And when a place is denied basic rights, basic dignity, and even basic attention for decades, you can’t expect peace to magically hold. The unrest we see in Balochistan today didn’t come out of nowhere, it’s the outcome of choices made over a long, long time, and now terrorist groups supported by India is taking advantage of the situation.
We don't even have to go to Balochistan, just look at Karachi? How can you hate your own people so much that you destroy the city that feeds you? You put unnecessary taxes on public to support your lavish lifestyle. Two of the biggest long‑term blunders by Establishment were letting governments sign Independent Power Producer (IPP) deals on those terms and then locking everything in with the 18th Amendment.
Establishment have no other choice but to bring structural reforms. Instead of begging for 1 billion or 2 billion dollars from China and Saudi Arabis, 34 EZ model can save them 22 billion dollars annually.
Goenitz
Elite Member
Great analogy. By those definitions, the US, Israeli and Pharohs enjoyed all their lives.
I think if a party has a pan-country popularity, there can be some fringe elements. It is our job to educate people not to support any armed violation of civil rights.
Nonetheless, no notable PTI official endorses that.
Also, there was hidden racism from the beginning and I have noticed that during my visits (before WOT). It just surfaced now on SMedia.
LC150
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most Pakistanis are pro military including PTI supporters what they didnt like is the shameless manner an elected official was horribly treated...
noonies generally hate the army period...
LC150
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afghans and indians are no bodies.. dont care what they say
Afghanis never accepted Pakistan since day one and neither did india.
hindus because they worship stones and drink cow pee one can "forgive" them for their retardness .. but afganistan a so called muslim states opposes a muslim state birth?....
unacceptable
which why I opposed Pakistan to meddling in Afganistan by any means ... Soviets should have just grinded afghans at will ...
post 9-11 we ie military again did the same mistake continued to "support" Afghan Taliban for strategic depth reason...
and now we are in kinetic conflict with them..... real genius work!...
Oscar
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They are part of the status quo because they are from the same pool. Unfortunately that is a case of lost identity in Pakistan where no one seems to recognize the overall “cousin-ness” of each other and due to existing and now social media supercharged polarization cannot see that the person you “hate” actually has a lot of common background and the same social strangles.
Irfan Baloch
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
noonies, jialas and insafians all hate army but they like the right general that helps them back into Power.
Noonies will be cursing army in the future for sure. its a given and PTI will be telling them to behave.
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