Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[delta2]

I think with the introduction of Hangor and soon J-35 India's window for decisive military action is closing fast.

I think for next 10 years they will need to put their heads down and sort out their air force and to a lesser extent their Navy

Do not underestimate their delusions. If what they consider to be a superior power butters them up a bit and promises them favours and an outcome they would like, they will initiate an attack. However, at the first sign of defeat, the Brahmin will present his women to you. This is both a trick and a ploy. Putting women in front of you the Brahmin shows surrender without surrendering and at yet at the same time tries to lower your guard and invoke mercy in you.

The biggest mistake Pakistan made was going easy on the Indians. Have always said that Pakistan needs to be more belligerant towards India. This will cause the Indians to lash out at each other as well as their supporters and allies for being under pressure, and demanding more protection from their masters will reveal their true extremely cowardlt nature, sowing rifts.

Remember the old saying, "The Brahmin will either sit under your feet or on your throat."

 

[Mobius]

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[arsalan345]

What do you mean exactly?

Is there any part of India thats out of Pakistan's range?

Do you think Indian military flies its air aircraft from eastern side of India to attack Pakistan?

They can only go back so much, which means it creates distance for them and gives us more than ample time to respond.

The Indians can't hide as we won't let them.

Well I am talking about may war. After they lose jets, they started flying far away, away from the range of our missiles and lofted some brahmos and scalp while still avoiding our missiles. They can fire scalp and brahmos from 500 km away. I think this is a game changer advantage. I am asking if we have anything that can strike deep. We have only seen cm-400 penetrating their layered air defense. I am asking questions about our own deep penetrating air launched cruise missiles. I am not sure whether they will perform well under Indian layered air defense or not.

 

[Optical216]

Pakistan is already fighting two active insurgencies. It is such a brittle country that Bharat was able to contract people in Pakistan to assassinate freedom fighters on Pakistani soil. It had success in a limited military engagement but that shouldn't be used as a benchmark for what a full-fledged war between the two countries would look like.

this is short sighted, do u not think ISI doesnt do the same in India, india has over a pool of 800 million poor people below povertly line, that is over 2.5x our population combined of people.
It is not one way, GDP is not an accurate metric to measure either country as indias gdp is inflated by fradulent number records as even IMF has reported. + Pakistan has a shadow economy and its real GDP when recorded would be around 500 Billion likely. India's gdp is also inflated by inequality. when u see the GDP per capitas, it paints a very different picture.


In future wars all wars will likely always be limited, no country in their right mind would risk full conflict with a nuclear power.

 

[kimjongun]

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What are your thoughts on this guy?
TBH for me he is the complete opposite fo war mongering bakshi and other fanatics and low life indians who stay in this disbelif of seperation of balochistan and what not.
He is quite well informed , as compared to ther indian military guys.

 

[Yasser76]

I don't understand your point. Is it that a 1 billion strong behemoth in the pocket of an extremist group, the same one which has been successfully orchestrating genocides against Muslim dating back to partition (I'm talking about the RSS if that wasn't clear enough), does not pose an existential threat?

I cant help ot if you could not understand a perfectly articulated post

 

[Yasser76]

It wasnt largest air battle since ww2 bro there have been larger battles in Korea, vietnam and desert storm. It was the largest BVR fight ever however

120 planes in an air battle. Unsure if this occured in Korea or Vietnam

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Well I am talking about may war. After they lose jets, they started flying far away, away from the range of our missiles and lofted some brahmos and scalp while still avoiding our missiles. They can fire scalp and brahmos from 500 km away. I think this is a game changer advantage. I am asking if we have anything that can strike deep. We have only seen cm-400 penetrating their layered air defense. I am asking questions about our own deep penetrating air launched cruise missiles. I am not sure whether they will perform well under Indian layered air defense or not.

First of all, all this "Indian layered air defence" is just nonsense.

Second, as you say, they had moved their air assets away from the theatre and couldn't use them for the remainder of the conflict.

Lastly, they fired 50 missiles towards our territory, especially the airbases and only 8 got through. We fired Fatah's in similar numbers on their territory, and hit their air bases.

How many were fired by us, how many got through, how many got intercepted by india? Has the enemy confirmed?

Also don't forget, they launched 80 drones towards Pakistan, while we launched over 400 drones and loitering munitions instead.

So, what's the problem?

 

[Toxic]

120 planes in an air battle. Unsure if this occured in Korea or Vietnam

It wasnt largest air battle since ww2 bro there have been larger battles in Korea, vietnam and desert storm. It was the largest BVR fight ever however

Vietnam or Korea didn't have large set piece air battle.

A better comparison would be the battle of al mansura during the Yom Kippur war which had over 220 aircraft in total involved and which took place between sides with rough technological parity.

 

[Musings]

I don't understand your point. Is it that a 1 billion strong behemoth in the pocket of an extremist group, the same one which has been successfully orchestrating genocides against Muslim dating back to partition (I'm talking about the RSS if that wasn't clear enough), does not pose an existential threat?

Look where you are taking this thread. Not going to happen. Take a rest

 

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[PK781]

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What are your thoughts on this guy?
TBH for me he is the complete opposite fo war mongering bakshi and other fanatics and low life indians who stay in this disbelif of seperation of balochistan and what not.
He is quite well informed , as compared to ther indian military guys.

while he may not be a current warmonger, but the guy still believes in their delusions and thinks they're superior and he still falsely attributes terrorism to Pakistan with many interviewers.
We should avoid giving them any importance. There is no point in listening to any of them, forget the so-called "aman ki asha", it ain't happening.

 

[Oscar]

Movements should not be considered a sign of immediate escalation but more so a case of building up frontal capability and rework of infrastructure.
In this way two things are happening - the IAF is likely going to be kept further back in early days of the conflict while frontal bases rely on GBAD and rapid repair teams to maintain their availability in the ideal scenario India wants while ground forces being moved forward to be able to follow up on existing IBGs (now being organized along stand off air support, loitering munitions and shaktiban type shoot and scoot systems) since it seems those 6-7k IBG troop numbers do need some more firepower to break through Pakistani lines even for shallow gains other than specific points in the south.

So ironically, while India leaned itself out for cold start - it had to then keep beefing it up and up until those mobilization times for an actual effective "start" fell from 48-72 hours to a week or more... so now they have to move more troops and build more barracks and facilities to somehow give the "start" the punch it needs.

That being said, they are learning and doing so to underestimate that is folly.

 

[maxpane]

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you got it wrong rafales are not 36. its 32 or less sir

 

[Entropic]

Didn't this "neutral" report also had an indian among authors?

@Yasser76

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