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i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.

not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.

We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.

Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.

Just saying!
 
i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.

not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.

We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.

Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.

Just saying!
Is the TEL and the camo on it any indication?
 
I have an issue with how shiny this thing is.
The altitude at which these nose comes are ejected is quite high, and they suffer heat burns 🔥 on the way down.
I don't see any on this .
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look at no 2 fairing isnt relased at high altitude
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this has been argued before and this was JAMDs response , also this matches ababeel
 
i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.

not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.

We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.

Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.

Just saying!
idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPR
 
i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.

not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.

We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.

Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.

Just saying!

A lot of the footage in the video was dated to 2025. Could it be it happened months ago and we just missed it?
 
A lot of the footage in the video was dated to 2025. Could it be it happened months ago and we just missed it?
personally i dont think so, but in any case, i think a Fatah 3 is a few years out from widescale induction. F2 only just did a user trial with AFRC. Its first test was in Dec 23! Development of these toys started a decade ago.
 
idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPR
Just look at the amount of videos featuring the S400 labelled as HQ-9 ETC. Or how they use Turkish Hisar SAM's in place of HISAR EW from Pak, heck, even shahpar 2 mislabelled as s3 in this video!
 
Development of these toys started a decade ago.
but we arent develpoing them like f1/f2 right
maybe that indian article is right we bought 192 hd1 and will slowly work to produce them locally


as you can tell i am straight in hopium mode
 
idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPR

They couldve shown a zoomed out shot of firing but it was a zoomed in still with unmistakable silhouette of ramjet powered sscm (hd-1). They really wanted us to see we got this in particular, name of fatah III and not “new missile” / hd-1 is also solid evidence. On first smash test they didnt even mention anywhere in video its name only freezing frame to see name written on missile made us find that out
 
They couldve shown a zoomed out shot of firing but it was a zoomed in still with unmistakable silhouette of ramjet powered sscm (hd-1). They really wanted us to see we got this in particular, name of fatah III and not “new missile” / hd-1 is also solid evidence. On first smash test they didnt even mention anywhere in video its name only freezing frame to see name written on missile made us find that out
lets wait till aug ia they will show them
 
but we arent develpoing them like f1/f2 right
maybe that indian article is right we bought 192 hd1 and will slowly work to produce them locally


as you can tell i am straight in hopium mode
for sure, but again, tests, validation, production, integration etc would all take years. Fatah is a common launcher family, so at the least NESCOM would need to redesign the launcher to fit on PA tel's.

The one in the video is not a PA tell AIUI, but farooq knows tel etc better than me. Its not something i pay attenion to
 

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