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I have an issue with how shiny this thing is.View attachment 196593
@farooqbhai are u talking about this debris ?? because the dates dont match this was on july 11 2025
Is the TEL and the camo on it any indication?i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.
not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.
We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.
Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.
Just saying!
I have an issue with how shiny this thing is.
The altitude at which these nose comes are ejected is quite high, and they suffer heat burnson the way down.
I don't see any on this .


the TEL is not a Pakistani/Fatah one! IMO this is not footage in Pakistan.Is the TEL and the camo on it any indication?
idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPRi would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.
not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.
We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.
Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.
Just saying!
i would be skeptical of assuming a HD-1 buy.
not to say it didnt happen, BUT, it wouldnt be the first time that ISPR uses stock footage. While we may not be able to find it, it may be the case that they had this on file from somewhere.
We have not heard of any tests, nor seen any indication of a new munition being tested- which alot of the time we do get, nor have we seen any new prod facilities pop up etc.
Either this is in veryyyy early stages, or is more of a placeholder idea for the direction Fatah will be going in- a SSCM.
Just saying!
personally i dont think so, but in any case, i think a Fatah 3 is a few years out from widescale induction. F2 only just did a user trial with AFRC. Its first test was in Dec 23! Development of these toys started a decade ago.A lot of the footage in the video was dated to 2025. Could it be it happened months ago and we just missed it?
Just look at the amount of videos featuring the S400 labelled as HQ-9 ETC. Or how they use Turkish Hisar SAM's in place of HISAR EW from Pak, heck, even shahpar 2 mislabelled as s3 in this video!idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPR
but we arent develpoing them like f1/f2 rightDevelopment of these toys started a decade ago.
idk man i doubt they will go this far , guess we will find out in aug . i hope we did get them man or we will be the laughing stock becasue of ISPR
lets wait till aug ia they will show themThey couldve shown a zoomed out shot of firing but it was a zoomed in still with unmistakable silhouette of ramjet powered sscm (hd-1). They really wanted us to see we got this in particular, name of fatah III and not “new missile” / hd-1 is also solid evidence. On first smash test they didnt even mention anywhere in video its name only freezing frame to see name written on missile made us find that out
for sure, but again, tests, validation, production, integration etc would all take years. Fatah is a common launcher family, so at the least NESCOM would need to redesign the launcher to fit on PA tel's.but we arent develpoing them like f1/f2 right
maybe that indian article is right we bought 192 hd1 and will slowly work to produce them locally
as you can tell i am straight in hopium mode
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