Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Toxic]

Problem is how. Pakistan is in a tough time now imo. It’s terrifying how many sides the attacks are coming from.

If only the babus had a preemptive mindset.

 

[Master Chief]

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i would be more concerned about the emiratis than the Indians.

This is a brewing shitstorm, this is not going to go well for Pakistan... First baloch reference ive seen i believe

Good that they don't trust us! Should be a reality check for those with assets there. They are indeed our open enemy.

BTW, "emiratis" are significantly "indian" nowadays by definition.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

So the RR has already started because they knew the airstrikes would start again now.
This is from today when 3 blasts had already taken place in KPK.

Pakistan strike on Kabul drug rehabilitation centre: Families want answers

There are calls to investigate the 16 March airstrike - which the UN says likely killed more - as a war crime.

bbc.com

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

 

[side-winder]

I find this whole thing aircraft quite amusing, ok even if the Aircraft parked it self at Nur Khan so what? Do they the Americans won't know that? And if Pakistan wanted to hide them it wouldn't be at Nur Khan.

"Hiding" in open for satellites to see? Lol

The last of the globemasters, which had arrived carrying eqpt in anticipation of round 2 of talks, left Pakistan only in last week.

 

[hussain0216]

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

Who the hell cares,, these same people have done nothing about Palestine or anywhere else

And we are supposed to care about some donkey afghans

I'm annoyed and frustrated, why we haven't hit Afghanistan harder then ever

It's a enemy of our country and the Afghans and Baloch will be used against us and we cannot play nice, we need to be more ruthless then ever

 

[Hassan007]

So the RR has already started because they knew the airstrikes would start again now.
This is from today when 3 blasts had already taken place in KPK.

Pakistan strike on Kabul drug rehabilitation centre: Families want answers

There are calls to investigate the 16 March airstrike - which the UN says likely killed more - as a war crime.

bbc.com

Now alkhanzeera reporting this, setting the stage to represent afgandus as innocent fearing pak strikes in upcoming days

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[Distant_Observer]

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

It wasn't bad intel. They hit a drone assembly plant and they were using their drug addicts as human shields.

We don't care about afghani collateral.

If we consider 70k Pakistani deaths, then there can be 500k collateral and its still within reasonable limits.

I would pick on Kandahar. Disable its electricity and water and make sure they can't sleep at night.

 

[Hassan007]

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

It wasn't bad intel they did struck ammo depot incase you haven't watched that video. This charsi(rehab) center got caught between the fires from that. Although good riddance.
P.S: They are yet to provide any concert evidence of so called 400 charsi killed

 

[side-winder]

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

The target itself was legitimate and high value inside former NATO base - the fire at so called hospital was due to secondary explosions from ammo - all these media houses should rather question the brainless Taliban administration.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

This was bad intel honestly. It happens in wars but damage is done already. It will come to surface time and again to haunt us.

Bad PR? No one gives a ****

Burn down 100 more charsi grounds, no one cares as long as its in Afghandustan.

 

[Ak01]

If only the babus had a preemptive mindset.

Good that they don't trust us! Should be a reality check for those with assets there. They are indeed our open enemy.

BTW, "emiratis" are significantly "indian" nowadays by definition.

the issue is, we spoke about this in the prior ep of the podcast is Pak sells itself too cheap.

For KSA, Pak has basically isolated itself from the UAE, not that it matters, but the point is, Pak threw itself behind KSA Policy, not doing what was inherently in its interests, playing a well balanced act.

KSA needs Pakistan also, while Pakistan is hooked on their money, Pakistan acts as a security guarantor for them. Thats priceless, however, we do this in exchange for menial loans.

What Pak really needs to do is come up with some sort of agreement with KSA wrt energy security:

1- we need some sort of strategic petrolium reserve, have the Saudis build something in Pakistan, this is a win win for both Pak and KSA. Theres a massive reserve sitting there, protected by Pakistan, out of reach of the Iranians and past the chokepoints.

2- that bloody refinery needs to be built. its been years we've been hearing about it, but it needs to get done.

3- Pak could secure saudi SLOC/maritime trade routes in exchange for investment in other energy resources like solar/mining, enables us to ride out price shocks even more

4- i dont know why the hell we are not pushing the saudis more for collaboration in def tech. The saudis are literally buying missiles from ukraine when we produce the full spectrum here. Heck, a trilateral agreement between pak, turk and saudis in this field

pak sells itself far, far too short.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Problem is how. Pakistan is in a tough time now imo. It’s terrifying how many sides the attacks are coming from.

It was all foreseeable. I had exactly predicted all that so many times before all this started. So many comments i wrote previously that if we transitioned the enemy status, from TTP to Afghan Taliban itself then it will be impossible to contain. That's exactly what TTP and India wanted. The whole purpose of TTP after US withdrawal was to ignite a war between Pakistan and Afg Taliban, we acted exactly as they had planned. Turning the entire border of 2700 km as hostile is a strategic defeat. Victory is not defined as dropping bombs, victory is defined as good diplomacy. Now after we have bombed Taliban, the debate is over already. They will do now everything in their power to destabilize Pakistan. Something which they were doing partially or covertly without much of a focus. We made ourselves their top priority. Their national security threat for their own existence.

I will be honest, Taliban cannot be defeated given our circumstances (india / modi govt at east). We cannot move entire forces from east to west. Airforce alone can never defeat Talibs. We will kill 100 and they will recruit 1000 more. Have been saying this over and over again.

Its clear that Munir's establishment strategy isn't working. No amount of security can secure 2700 km long difficult border. and no amount of security can replace good trusted relations. Now when india and others not happy with Pakistan's mediator role, they got a perfect candidate to fund and arm. It was all forseeable, i wonder why GHQ couldn't see.

I know TTPs sheltered by Talibs are killing our people, I want them dead too. But I think practically. We need diplomacy to gain time and to prepare a contingency plan. A long term plan where we can fund / prepare alternate for Taliban. We need Taliban to get busy at some other front internally or at some other border. We need our intelligence agencies to do real work. Once they do their work, only then the work of airforce will yield any results.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Bad PR? No one gives a ****

Burn down 100 more charsi grounds, no one cares as long as its in Afghandustan.

We don't strategize. Its our dilemma as a nation. I see people in this forum, brilliant tactically but ZERO know how about strategic implementations.

Its not about bad PR. Its about how we can secure our border. No amount of security can replace a friendly regime in kabul. You turn them into a sworn enemy then you have to commit 100s of billions of dollars at that border for indefinite amount of time. Also afghanistan is not now the collective power of taliban, its an entry towards Pakistan with 2700 km wide options and whole lot of sponsor lists brewing up in middle-east, israel and india.

A friendly regime, would give us access to central asia and above all we can free up security resources completely. We cannot get friendly regime ever, if we don't care about hitting "charsi houses". No faction will work for us.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Pakistanis have a cowardly, timid and cheap mindset. I dont know if its because they pride themselves on Urdu (essentially a UP Hindustani language). But they are insecurity ridden cowards.

Can't even muster courage against people slaughtering them on racial supremacy ideologies like the Afghans.

They are worried about "bad PR" from dead Afghan charsis when in fact thats a good policy, you need extreme force to assert authority and deterrence.

They cant run a country, and they are cowards. Simple logic, someone kills you, you wipe out their villages. But when you have Lahori Urdu-speaking paindus trying to be human rights activists for approval from the world, you get cowardly policies by insecure pussies.

 

[Starlord]

Insurgencies don't last without local support... but