Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

GoatsMilk said:
I suspect Iranians fear that if they target key infrastructure, then the isrealis will destroy the entire iranian infrastructure too.

While iran could do some minor damage, the isrealis with american air power will annihilate everything in iran. Nothing important would be left standing and whatever minor damage is done to isreal will be sustained by the USA.
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According to the Government of Iran, both the US and Israel have caused 250billion of damage. Given that governments "never" list military losses and costs, all those loses are civilian and infrastructure. So clearly, both the USA and Israel are not holding back, so why should Iran ?

The damage that Iran has sustained is "not minor".

This flaw in Iran's approach is what invites more war to its shores.
 
Professor Jiang said:
I have a picture of Shia Tupac as my avatar. My user ID is to be taken just as seriously.
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Glad you clarified. I thought you were a real fan of the charlatan 'professor' Jiang!
Its amazing how easy it is to fool people with some smooth talking blogs these days. So Mr. Jiang 'predicted' 'Trump to come to power, that Trump to launch a war on Iran' made him some modern Nostradamus! And now the hack is milking gullible audiences in various channels for $$$.
But he is not the only one. There are the likes of Col. Macgregor, Scott Ritter and many more. I am even losing respect for the ex CIA guy Larry Johnson who appears on Judge Napo in Hawaiian shirts smoking cigars, and other shows almost daily. It is one thing to make an occasional mistake but many of these 'analysts' have nothing new to say and just keep mouthing off the same thing and often mix BS into their narrative. They are probably paid some money like $5000 per show for their appearances.
Want to see serious analysts then see Trita Parsi, Jon Elmer, Chas Freeman, Jefferey Sachs, Glenn Diesen, Mearseihmer, Matt Hoh, Ali Valizaid (sp.?)...
 
VCheng said:
The next election cycle. That is the way.
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True democracies don't have to wait for election cycles. Look at Kier Starmer, he is close to having his ass on the street.

No elected democractic leader in Europe can attempt to do what Trump has done, and still be a leader. That is because European democracies on balance on quite mature(with the exception of Hungary).

Having checks and balances and safety switches are part of a democratic framework and something the USA lacks both in adherence of democratic values as well as the mechanisms for those values.
 
Ali_Baba said:
True democracies don't have to wait for election cycles. Look at Kier Starmer, he is close to having his ass on the street.

No elected democractic leader in Europe can attempt to do what Trump has done, and still be a leader. That is because European democracies on balance on quite mature(with the exception of Hungary).

Having checks and balances and safety switches are part of a democratic framework and something the USA lacks both in adherence of democratic values as well as the mechanisms for those values.
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USA has its own system. European countries have theirs. Clearly, one is not the other, so I am not sure what your point is here.
 
Persian Gulf said:
This is not true

The plan is for these counties to only do something AFTER a ceasefire is reached
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As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade. The UK has deployed HMS Dragon, while France is positioning naval assets to protect vessels.

Keep limiting my replies because I call out your bs, very mature.
You obviously have zero military background

And no HMS dragon is parked off Cyprus!
Facts matter, once again forced to call you out 🙄
 
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RoadAmerica said:
As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade. The UK has deployed HMS Dragon, while France is positioning naval assets to protect vessels.
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HMS Dragon is in the Red Sea

All the UK’s statements make clear this mission only begins after a ceasefire not during war
 
Fatman17 said:
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Iran war costs soar past $29bn as truce teeters

Before taking off on long-awaited China trip, Trump vows to "win peacefully or otherwise"; Tehran expands Hormuz control as EU mulls post-war naval mission.
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Iran war costs soar
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The munitions they expended cost more than this figure, then add deployment, logistics, loss of aircraft/infra.

True cost is likely double.
 
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