Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

The next election cycle. That is the way.

True democracies don't have to wait for election cycles. Look at Kier Starmer, he is close to having his ass on the street.

No elected democractic leader in Europe can attempt to do what Trump has done, and still be a leader. That is because European democracies on balance on quite mature(with the exception of Hungary).

Having checks and balances and safety switches are part of a democratic framework and something the USA lacks both in adherence of democratic values as well as the mechanisms for those values.

 

[lightning f57]

If the elected Leader is not delivering, you get rid of them. Period. Something the USA would do well to "learn" how to do.

If they lie about their promises they should be kicked out instantly.

 

[VCheng]

True democracies don't have to wait for election cycles. Look at Kier Starmer, he is close to having his ass on the street.

No elected democractic leader in Europe can attempt to do what Trump has done, and still be a leader. That is because European democracies on balance on quite mature(with the exception of Hungary).

Having checks and balances and safety switches are part of a democratic framework and something the USA lacks both in adherence of democratic values as well as the mechanisms for those values.

USA has its own system. European countries have theirs. Clearly, one is not the other, so I am not sure what your point is here.

 

[lightning f57]

USA has its own system. European countries have theirs. Clearly, one is not the other, so I am not sure what your point is here.

Point is easy, US system sucks

 

[Ali_Baba]

USA has its own system. European countries have theirs. Clearly, one is not the other, so I am not sure what your point is here.

Fix the system.

 

[RoadAmerica]

This is not true

The plan is for these counties to only do something AFTER a ceasefire is reached

As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade. The UK has deployed HMS Dragon, while France is positioning naval assets to protect vessels.

Keep limiting my replies because I call out your bs, very mature.
You obviously have zero military background

And no HMS dragon is parked off Cyprus!
Facts matter, once again forced to call you out

 

[Persian Gulf]

As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade. The UK has deployed HMS Dragon, while France is positioning naval assets to protect vessels.

HMS Dragon is in the Red Sea

All the UK’s statements make clear this mission only begins after a ceasefire not during war

 

[LeonBlack08]

 

[Fatman17]

Iran war costs soar past $29bn as truce teeters

Before taking off on long-awaited China trip, Trump vows to "win peacefully or otherwise"; Tehran expands Hormuz control as EU mulls post-war naval mission.

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Iran war costs soar

 

[lightning f57]

Iran war costs soar past $29bn as truce teeters

Before taking off on long-awaited China trip, Trump vows to "win peacefully or otherwise"; Tehran expands Hormuz control as EU mulls post-war naval mission.

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Iran war costs soar

The munitions they expended cost more than this figure, then add deployment, logistics, loss of aircraft/infra.

True cost is likely double.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Meengla]

As of May 2026, the UK and France are leading a multinational, defensive naval mission to secure commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, not a direct invasion of Iran, following severe disruption to trade.

The Strait is a hornets nest. Iranians can fire not only from one of the 30 missile sites along the Strait but also from deep within Iran's land--and who knows from what beneat the surface. Americans know that this is a 'war of choice' launched by Trump, the war remains deeply unpopular, and thus Americans are not willing to accept many, if any, casualties. How would the Europeans leaders sell bodybags coming back to European shores for a war which has no direct NATO involvement and a war launched by another country? Say 10 or 20 French or German dead arrive to their respective countries in bodybags?
It seems like the Europeans are trying to do the 'bare minimum' to be on Trump's good side. Many countries are pleasing Trump and hoping he would direct his wrath to someone else. There are trade/commercial reasons to not ignore America even for rich countries in Europe and Asia.

 

[Meengla]

The munitions they expended cost more than this figure, then add deployment, logistics, loss of aircraft/infra.
True cost is likely double.

Double or not, the $29 billion as quoted during the Senate hearing where Lindsay Graham was grilling Hegseth and Gen. Caine yesterday also mentioned the cost to repair the damaged/destroyed American bases in the Middle East is not factored in yet and it was uncertain if the local countries would share the cost in rebuilding them.

 

[BHAN85]

9 minor earthquakes (magnitude 2.6 to 4.6) in about 8 hours in Pardis, near Tehran.

Two major fault lines pass through Pardis in the northeast of Tehran. It seems that they're now active. A major earthquake is more likely than before.

A natural earthquake could be a opportunity to conceal the test of a nuclear weapon.

 

[VCheng]

A natural earthquake could be a opportunity to conceal the test of a nuclear weapon.

No. The propagation of the seismic waves generated is according to different patterns.