Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[Bilal]

425 Kgf (IAS, SJS); by-pass ratio – 1.0 ± 0.05; power off take – 3 kW; SFC (kg/lgf/hr) - 0.95 ± 0.05’ weight – 100 kg, and engine accessories – 20 kg.

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Rasoob seems to have a pretty good range for its size. Can that be taken as new generation engines being rolled out?

 

[Bilal]

here is the your MEA saying after 0140 in the source provided

and the vids that you sent show 0015 hrs , so pls explain how an attack that happend after 0140( per you own goverment ) were intercepted at 0015 , did indians invent time traveling SAMs ??
only claim that is pakistani is that you shot your own missiles and most probably they were missfires that detonated after not finding their target
which is better stoping an attack hour ealry or stopping your onw missile/missfires


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here is fattah 2 outline from janes
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and the supposed fattah 2 , the angle doesnt match and the geometry is different and you can literally see the hump that is seen in pechora

Forget geometry, the diameter is very small compared to Fatah2.

 

[side-winder]

Firstly I am glad that you all believe that India has the ability to intercept supersonic Pechora missiles which fly at Mach 3.5- Mach 4 with other Surface to air missiles in its arsenal. If that is true that does not bode well for your Fateh 3 series.

Since you are moderator and you are choosing to engage in this discussion on this thread, I hope you will not cry "trolling" and ban/speed limit when I respond to this.

I would have responded yesterday itself, unfortunately you have speed limited my account, limiting the number times I can respond.

So here we go...

Indian MEA said no such thing.

Here what Stimson Centre on Policy Research based out of Washington has written about this event.

Four Days in May: The India-Pakistan Crisis of 2025 • Stimson Center

An early assessment of available evidence on what transpired in the recent India-Pakistan crisis and its implications

www.stimson.org

Shortly after midnight on May 10 (India time), there appears to have been an air intercept near Sirsa, India, approximately 130 kilometers from the India-Pakistan border. Some Indian press accounts suggest this was an Indian intercept of a Pakistani Fatah-II short-range ballistic missile, which has a reported range permitting such a flight.

Infact what are you are quoting are the bizzare claims by your own ISPR. That India is shooting missiles on its own Punjab.

Four Days in May: The India-Pakistan Crisis of 2025 • Stimson Center

An early assessment of available evidence on what transpired in the recent India-Pakistan crisis and its implications

www.stimson.org

In a bizarre and unsubstantiated claim, around 1:45 am Pakistan time, Pakistan’s chief military spokesperson alleged that India had fired six missiles—all of which landed in Indian Punjab (one on the town of Adampur and five on the city of Amritsar). There does not appear to be any evidence that this occurred.

One possibility is that Pakistan had decided to launch a ballistic missile attack of its own and was attempting to provide a pretext for escalating from drones to longer-range (though still short-range) ballistic missiles. It is notable in this regard that in the official Indian briefing of the following morning, Indian officials claimed there were “several high-speed missile attacks noticed subsequently after 0140 hours in the night at several air bases in Punjab. Thus, the Indian alleged timing of the missile strike’s onset is within an hour of the Pakistani broadcast of their missile allegation. Another possibility is that Pakistan had some indications of an imminent Indian attack but mistook those indications.

Around 2:30 am Pakistan time, India struck the Nur Khan airbase, which is part of the large Chaklala military cantonment near Rawalpindi. The blasts were sufficiently loud to wake residents in the nearby Pakistani capital of Islamabad.

The Nur Khan attack was just one of at least eleven sites struck the evening of May 9-10. As the Indian Director-General of Air Operations Air Marshal Bharti explained in a post-crisis press conference on May 11, following “relentless attacks” by Pakistani drones, Indian leadership concluded it “was time to convey some message to our adversary” through a “strike where it would hurt.”

Here is a third video of the same Fateh 2 intercept over Sirsa from a different angle, look at the time stamp of May 10th 00:15 Hrs on CCTV footage.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ve0e0h7p56lf1/pb/m2-res_854p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778878800&s=75f1c88237e6f6cd59ed1c371b34a175b4c31ba6

Here is another CCTV videos, which I have posted previously, notice the time stamp of May 10, 00:15 hrs in both.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/p4z17exhyvze1/pb/m2-res_1920p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778839200&s=0581521cf53d08ddc1c37b3a50097b255de7a746

What utter clownshow - then you have the audacity to complain why you get speedlimited with warning points?

1. Claims F-2 was intercepted over Sirsa

2. Shows wreckage of Pechora SAM as Fatah-2 which gets debunked. (Even a visually impaired can see it's not Fatah-2).

3. Takes another twist and Posts video of an interception at time 0015 claiming to be F-2 interception.

4. Quotes a report from Stimson as proof which cites "indian media" with claim of F2 interception over Sirsa - i mean the same media which was capturing lahore and karachi ports in parallel.

5. Does another own goal again when his own quoted source cites Indian Officials as saying "high speed missile attacks AFTER 0140 hrs". (By the way the official transcript of MEA presser is still on their website).

6. Keeps insisting like retards - the wreckage he posted is of Fatah-2 - and somehow the missiles which we launched after 0140 hrs were being intercepted at 0015 hrs. Lol

I mean now tell me honestly if you don't deserve a permanent ban from this thread?

 

[Bilal]

What utter clownshow - then you have the audacity to complain why you get speedlimited with warning points?

1. Claims F-2 was intercepted over Sirsa

2. Shows wreckage of Pechora SAM as Fatah-2 which gets debunked. (Even a visually impaired can see it's not Fatah-2).

3. Takes another twist and Posts video of an interception at time 0015 claiming to be F-2 interception.

4. Quotes a report from Stimson as proof which cites "indian media" with claim of F2 interception over Sirsa - i mean the same media which was capturing lahore and karachi ports in parallel.

5. Does another own goal again when his own quoted source cites Indian Officials as saying "high speed missile attacks AFTER 0140 hrs". (By the way the official transcript of MEA presser is still on their website). 6. Keeps insisting like retards - the wreckage he posted is of Fatah-2 - and somehow the missiles which we launched after 0140 hrs were being intercepted at 0015 hrs. Lol

I mean now tell me honestly if you don't deserve a permanent ban from this thread?

These are common BS being used widely by indian revisionists. Let it be brought up for a comprehensive debunking database.

 

[kimjongun]

Does anyone know what Babur actually uses? Is it a utbofan or turbo jet?
Raad/taimoor uses a turbo jet I think
But which kind Ukrainian? Or chinese?
Also why don't we go for Turkish turbo jets for missiles like rasoob?
@Ak01 @Oscar

 

[Princeps]

Does anyone know what Babur actually uses? Is it a utbofan or turbo jet?
Raad/taimoor uses a turbo jet I think
But which kind Ukrainian? Or chinese?
Also why don't we go for Turkish turbo jets for missiles like rasoob?
@Ak01 @Oscar

Babur iirc has used both ukrainian and chinese turbojets in different iterations. It might have even used ukrainian turbofan at some point.

 

[Ak01]

Babur iirc has used both ukrainian and chinese turbojets in different iterations. It might have even used ukrainian turbofan at some point.

Babur iirc has used both ukrainian and chinese turbojets in different iterations. It might have even used ukrainian turbofan at some point.

Does anyone know what Babur actually uses? Is it a utbofan or turbo jet?
Raad/taimoor uses a turbo jet I think
But which kind Ukrainian? Or chinese?
Also why don't we go for Turkish turbo jets for missiles like rasoob?
@Ak01 @Oscar

id be surprised if a ukrainian fan was used, iirc they onky have the MS400 which isnt really suitable for babur class missiles, would be too underpowered

i believe in the current state theyve managed to produce a chinese design at home which is applied accross everything

i dont think the turks have something in class, but im not sure to be honest

 

[kimjongun]

id be surprised if a ukrainian fan was used, iirc they onky have the MS400 which isnt really suitable for babur class missiles, would be too underpowered

i believe in the current state theyve managed to produce a chinese design at home which is applied accross everything

i dont think the turks have something in class, but im not sure to be honest

The turks have good lineup , they even used them in their own SOM and atmaca missiles.

 

[safriz]

Airburst pre fragmented warhead

 

[Ak01]

The turks have good lineup , they even used them in their own SOM and atmaca missiles.

for sure, only thing is those two missiles are alot smaller and lighter

 

[ThoroughPro]

It has always seemed to me that primary mission of PARFC beyond demonstrating ability of deep penetration strikes via multiple different vectors as part of conventional deterrence was that of supporting PAF in SEAD/DEAD operations, airfield bombardment and knocking out key c2 nodes primarily those of IAF. Im curious though as if this has caused any unwanted friction with PAF due to more long range strike elements and importance being placed under nominal Army command, despite PAF being primary strike arm.
@Panzerkiel could you share some insight

Why would there be any friction, this capability provides more options to the joint forces to hit long range targets. why risk sending your pilots over enemy territory when one missiles can accomplish the same tasks?

 

[maverick]

Airburst pre fragmented warhead



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deadly, how big is the warhead ? 500 lbs, 1000 lbs or 2000 lbs or more ?

 

[falcon34]

deadly, how big is the warhead ? 500 lbs, 1000 lbs or 2000 lbs or more ?

A gazillion pounds

 

[JamD]

425 Kgf (IAS, SJS); by-pass ratio – 1.0 ± 0.05; power off take – 3 kW; SFC (kg/lgf/hr) - 0.95 ± 0.05’ weight – 100 kg, and engine accessories – 20 kg.

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Interesting better sfc than most turbojets but nowhere near as good as American turbofans. Makes total sense. Good effort by the Indians. Also, this thread needs cleanup.

 

[Jaeger]

What utter clownshow - then you have the audacity to complain why you get speedlimited with warning points?

1. Claims F-2 was intercepted over Sirsa

2. Shows wreckage of Pechora SAM as Fatah-2 which gets debunked. (Even a visually impaired can see it's not Fatah-2).

3. Takes another twist and Posts video of an interception at time 0015 claiming to be F-2 interception.

4. Quotes a report from Stimson as proof which cites "indian media" with claim of F2 interception over Sirsa - i mean the same media which was capturing lahore and karachi ports in parallel.

5. Does another own goal again when his own quoted source cites Indian Officials as saying "high speed missile attacks AFTER 0140 hrs". (By the way the official transcript of MEA presser is still on their website).

6. Keeps insisting like retards - the wreckage he posted is of Fatah-2 - and somehow the missiles which we launched after 0140 hrs were being intercepted at 0015 hrs. Lol

I mean now tell me honestly if you don't deserve a permanent ban from this thread?

1. I accept that video I posted was of Pechora SAM, that is why I removed it.

2. You have been repeating this line that Indian MEA had claimed that "high speed missile attacks AFTER 0140 hrs "and I was wondering why were you not posting entire briefing, along with the MEA link

I went and checked on their website and lo and behold, here is the entire sentence MEA website.

"There were also several high-speed missile attacks noticed subsequently after 0140 hours in the night at several air bases in Punjab. However, limited damage was sustained to equipment and personnel at Indian Air Force stations at Udhampur, Pathankot, Adampur and Bhuj. "

https://www.mea.gov.in/media-briefings.htm?dtl/39486/Transcript+of+Special+briefing+on+OPERATION+SINDOOR+May+10+2025

3. You do realize missile interception took place in Sirsa at 00:15hrs which is a place Haryana, where as MEA is taking Pakistani missile attacks airbases in J&K, Punjab and Gujrat(along the Pakistani border)after 0140 Hrs . I am attaching some maps of these places for your reference, to show how far they are from Sirsa.






4. The missile which was intercepted in over Sirsa, was intercepted head on, ie it was approaching from the west, where as the interceptor approaching from the East.

5. The interception took place at supersonic speeds, i.e. as we can hear the sonic boom from interception few seconds later.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ve0e0h7p56lf1/pb/m2-res_854p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778878800&s=75f1c88237e6f6cd59ed1c371b34a175b4c31ba6

https://packaged-media.redd.it/p4z17exhyvze1/pb/m2-res_1920p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778839200&s=0581521cf53d08ddc1c37b3a50097b255de7a746