Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[side-winder]

Almost all the BrahMos hits were hangers which were the least valuable parts(except Bohlari), the seekers in the BraHMos (adapted from naval use) seems to be able tp see hangers but not smaller structures. At Sargodha, one BarHmos went and attacked the damn Hills nearby another hit a grid station outside the base. The Nur Khan base got spoofed by a few vehicles.
This suggests at present it utility is pretty limited in conventional strikes, it cam only hit larger targets.
Still an attack on depots or fuel farms will be concerning, it can't (yet) hit aircraft shelters and runaways.

Nope - i have no doubts about accuracy of Brahmos - including ground launched ones - unless there is success in spoofing.

Sargodha runway was hit by ground launched brahmos.

 

[side-winder]

t

hat hanger i think houses tb2s , it was shown in pafs video one time

Yes it was built for UAVs but they weren't there.

 

[MandarKaBandar]

It's become habitual for Indian military leaders to issue weekly statements and for Indian Godhi media and RSS shoeshine boys to continue posting doctored images and bizarre claims to keep the majority engaged and away from realities.
They claimed Chunian Radar site destroyed and Nur Khan base put out of commission. Little do they or their people have the comprehension that airbases are spread over hundred and even thousands of acres and one or two hits can not do worthwhile damage to them.
1: An image of untouched Chunian Radar.
2: A C-130 taking off from Nur Khan the very next morning after the so called attack !!

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[Sparten]

Nope - i have no doubts about accuracy of Brahmos - including ground launched ones - unless there is success in spoofing.

I didn't say it was inaccurate. I said it could only reliably resolve a large structure. Which is fine for a nuclear role and signiricant conventional ones.

Sargodha runway was hit by ground launched brahmos.

Sargodha was an anti-runway munition. And the sttrike was either intercepoted, or was poolry planend, it hit the edge, didn't dusrupt operationd at all.

 

[side-winder]

Sargodha was an anti-runway munition. And the sttrike was either intercepoted, or was poolry planend, it hit the edge, didn't dusrupt operationd at all.

Nope - runway was precisely hit at two locations - Both by Brahmos.

You can agree to disagree.

 

[MandarKaBandar]

Sargodha was an anti-runway munition. And the sttrike was either intercepoted, or was poolry planend, it hit the edge, didn't dusrupt operationd at all.

Sargodha runway was hit at a cross section while other projectiles like the one striking a hill side were electronically diverted !

 

[Princeps]

Almost all the BrahMos hits were hangers which were the least valuable parts(except Bohlari), the seekers in the BraHMos (adapted from naval use) seems to be able tp see hangers but not smaller structures. At Sargodha, one BarHmos went and attacked the damn Hills nearby another hit a grid station outside the base. The Nur Khan base got spoofed by a few vehicles.
This suggests at present it utility is pretty limited in conventional strikes, it cam only hit larger targets.
Still an attack on depots or fuel farms will be concerning, it can't (yet) hit aircraft shelters and runaways.

The one that hit the hills was Scalp not Brahmos, because it was subsonic. Nur Khan was also Scalp.

Brahmos in land-attack doesn't use radar seeker.

 

[TAC]

My brothers, cousins and kin. This is reality hitting them and knowing Pakistan is arming itself to the teeth and is still a very young nation by global standards. It has time and they have to live next door to it. With Chinese friendship this makes matters more stark for them i.e. that conflict is going to be very bad for them, as will aggressive moves.
Well, should we trust them, f*ck no. Smile and just say yes and carry on with plans.

Agreed but I think they’ve also realised that there narrative towards Pakistan has failed in the International arena. They look increasingly comical and unhinged continuously accusing Pakistan of terrorism when the whole world is appreciating Pakistan’s efforts for peace. They are therefore trying to correct their international image by taking a conciliatory position. Modi and Co are using these none Govt RSS & retired types to start the conversation so that they are covered in case of a backlash. Idiots have fed their public so much poison against Pakistan that now they dare not utter anything to the contrary although they want to. Deceit is in their DNA, I’d rather trust a poisonous snake.

 

[falcon34]

Nope - runway was precisely hit at two locations - Both by Brahmos.

You can agree to disagree.

Why didn't PAF tried to replicate the same?.
Why didn't we hit their hangars and Runways. From it looks we've only seen damage by F1 strikes and not a signal video of PAF strikes have emerged expect 1

 

[side-winder]

Why didn't PAF tried to replicate the same?.
Why didn't we hit their hangars and Runways. From it looks we've only seen damage by F1 strikes and not a signal video of PAF strikes have emerged expect 1

What i can say for sure is PAF did achieve the air superiority - flew alot more attack sorties than IAF which flew only a couple sneak attack missions and left the rest to GLCMs.

I can't say about the choice of targets or BDA imageries because i have not seen myself.

 

[Waz]

Agreed but I think they’ve also realised that there narrative towards Pakistan has failed in the International arena. They look increasingly comical and unhinged continuously accusing Pakistan of terrorism when the whole world is appreciating Pakistan’s efforts for peace. They are therefore trying to correct their international image by taking a conciliatory position. Modi and Co are using these none Govt RSS & retired types to start the conversation so that they are covered in case of a backlash. Idiots have fed their public so much poison against Pakistan that now they dare not utter anything to the contrary although they want to. Deceit is in their DNA, I’d rather trust a poisonous snake.

100% bro.

 

[Bratva]

Sargodha runway was hit at a cross section while other projectiles like the one striking a hill side were electronically diverted !

Sarghoda AB was also hit by drones/LM which martyred a radar technician (Mohd Ayyaz). An educated assumption is after LM/Drone attack on radars, an EMCON was put in place. This is when India attacked the runaway on base successfully and Kirana hill missile slipped through our ADnet.

 

[side-winder]

Sarghoda AB was also hit by drones/LM which martyred a radar technician (Mohd Ayyaz). An educated assumption is after LM/Drone attack on radars, an EMCON was put in place. This is when India attacked the runaway on base successfully and Kirana hill missile slipped through our ADnet.

EMCON doesn't mean silencing all the sensors - necessary ADGE is maintained whatsoever - All the missiles were tracked and classified - the ones which struck runway were launched from Surat Garh - Same place where missiles aimed at Shorkot were launched from.

 

[rafale]

EMCON doesn't mean silencing all the sensors - necessary ADGE is maintained whatsoever - All the missiles were tracked and classified - the ones which struck runway were launched from Surat Garh - Same place where missiles aimed at Shorkot were launched from.

Hi, @side-winder

so i know i may be asking this question that has been answered before, but the answers were piecemeal stitched together.

Can you make one post in reply and mention which Indian missiles hit which target (and whether they were ALCM or GLCM) in Pakistan, which missed and where and which were spoofed and hard killed?

Would be grateful, since you seem to have authentic knowledge.
Ofcourse no need to divulge our AD capability or specific infosec/opsec.

 

[side-winder]

Hi, @side-winder

so i know i may be asking this question that has been answered before, but the answers were piecemeal stitched together.

Can you make one post in reply and mention which Indian missiles hit which target (and whether they were ALCM or GLCM) in Pakistan, which missed and where and which were spoofed and hard killed?

Would be grateful, since you seem to have authentic knowledge.
Ofcourse no need to divulge our AD capability or specific infosec/opsec.

Seems like a duplicate job. I have ready made a number of posts. About the damage, a general statement holds true - none significant except Bholari.

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