US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Ali_Baba]

Ksa responded
Saudi Arabia says it will only normalize relations with Israel if there is an irreversible pathway to a Palestinian state.

-CNN
Our response should be same

There is no such thing as a irreversible pathway, there can only be facts on an actual established Palestinian state first, not promises............

 

[Ali_Baba]

After Trump's statements about the Abraham Accords.. Saudi source : Normalization with Israel is conditional on an irreversible path towards a Palestinian state.

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There is no such thing as a irreversible pathway, there can only be facts on an actual established Palestinian state first, not promises............

 

[Bharatah]

The old "Sunni world" died almost 100 years ago. With the fall of the Sultan (in 1908) in the Ottoman Empire, the old leadership of the Sunni world fell. Since then, there has been nothing but colonies and black ops groups (created by the CIA and Mossad) of Wahhabist ideology.

If, at some point, these "countries" publicly assume the Zionist entity of Israel, the following will happen in the long term:

- Millions of people will abandon "fake Sunnism" and become Shiites. This will occur because these places will be officially proclaimed "puppets."Currently, there are already between 300/400 million Shiites in the world, and this number tends to increase. In Iraq, Shiites were 50% of the population (30 years ago), today they are almost 70%, this is already happening.

- Actual "Resistance" will increase within these former "Sunni countries" (which are actually Wahhabist Zionist ideologies), organizations like Hezbollah will appear in several of these places over the decades (this one is already happening). Mainly in Saudi Arabia, where the oppressed Shiite population grows every year and is already at 15% of the population, pay attention to this for the next few decades.

- From there, in 400 or 500 years in the future, a worldwide Shiite resistance could emerge, that is: what is today Iran/Hezbollah/Houthis in the Middle East, would be something worldwide in 500 years in the future.

- The last Sunni stronghold would be the tariqas, which are already banned in several "Sunni" majority places precisely because they threatened the dominance of the Zionist elite. When the Sultan was overthrown, the Young Turks and Mustafa Kermal Atatürk banned the Tariqas in Turkey, rightfully so.

- Saudi Arabia (KSA) knows this and tries to avoid recognizing the Zionist entity. The Arab nation is already poorly regarded worldwide, and most Sunni Muslims are already recognized as fighting and puppets. Publicly assuming "Israel" would be the end of the KSA in Islamic terms. That would be the new United Arab Emirates.

NOTE: This is why the new Zionist world order destroys Iran (central Shiite) before the "Sunni" countries announce their surrender and recognition
of the Zionist entity, so there would be no central Shiite to leverage these resistances and Shiite growth. All of this is being calculated by the CIA and Mossad. This would be taught in Western schools as "World War III" in which Muslims persecuted innocent Zionist Jews and the Palestinian era of Nazism. This is the original plan. Remember that it was a Zionist Jewish elite that created the first and second world wars.

 

[The SC]

There is no such thing as a irreversible pathway, there can only be facts on an actual established Palestinian state first, not promises............

That's what KSA means by irreversible pathway.

 

[Hazard]

Netanyahu wants to " secure " Israel before he dies. His only wish was end of Iranians govt, Hamas and Hizb...and he failed to do so....

Hezb/Hamas are as good as dead.

 

[Ali_Baba]

That's what KSA means by irreversible pathway.

"irreversible pathway" is a promise, nothing more.

 

[The SC]

"irreversible pathway" is a promise, nothing more.

If it was just that..Israel would have accepted..it never keeps its promises anyways..

 

[hussain0216]

Hezb/Hamas are as good as dead.

These are irregular militias,

How can they be dead???? More people will join, they will get more funding and the hatred for Israel is higher then ever


Israel intended to create security zones in Lebanon and Syria
But drone warfare and FPV drones have allowed Hezbollah to punish Israel and it would be impossible for Israel to maintain a presence in Lebanon

Syria will be exactly the same soon enough, with FPV drones being the main weapon to hit Israeli forces, including in the Golan



The Palestinians for all their suffering are more numerous then ever, and the Israeli have condemned themselves in trying to harm the Palestinians




The Israeli are worried, they are worried the world hates them, the Arab and Muslim states despise them and they have no system to go forward with multiple hostile actors


They are trying to force the U.S to force multiple countries to be friendly with Israel,, but the sheer unadulterated hatred amongst the population for Israel is simply too much

Even a agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Hezb/Hamas are as good as dead.

a good zionist is a dead zionist

 

[Broghil]

Well Trump mentioned countries which have valid points for not signing the Abraham's accord. Most of these countries might link it to the establishment of a Palestinian state in some form.
Although if would be interesting to see if Israel announces a plan or road map for some sort of Palestinian state and then demands that these countries sign Abraham's accord.

 

[Hazard]

These are irregular militias,

How can they be dead???? More people will join, they will get more funding and the hatred for Israel is higher then ever


Israel intended to create security zones in Lebanon and Syria
But drone warfare and FPV drones have allowed Hezbollah to punish Israel and it would be impossible for Israel to maintain a presence in Lebanon

Syria will be exactly the same soon enough, with FPV drones being the main weapon to hit Israeli forces, including in the Golan



The Palestinians for all their suffering are more numerous then ever, and the Israeli have condemned themselves in trying to harm the Palestinians




The Israeli are worried, they are worried the world hates them, the Arab and Muslim states despise them and they have no system to go forward with multiple hostile actors


They are trying to force the U.S to force multiple countries to be friendly with Israel,, but the sheer unadulterated hatred amongst the population for Israel is simply too much

Even a agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on

This numerical advantage that you mentioned hasn't yielded any results, for as far as I can remember and neither is it likely to going forward. Just a mere 20 millions are holding half a billion people by their balls in that region and beyond. Muslims have this mindset that numbers alone will win them over, sadly they're deluded. And hatred alone, or shouting slogans, won't win you anything either. It's time our people went back to the drawing board and revisit their strategies.

Look at Gaza, as if they weren't living through hell already, they're now 10 x times worse. Hezb, vastly downgraded and along with 1000s of kms land lost to Israel, and millions sent back to poverty.

Yes, Israel is hated all over the world, myself included but that doesn't materially change anything for them. They have some of the biggest players in their back pockets, and that isn't about to change anytime soon, sadly.

Until and unless all Arabs combined are ready to take on the challenge of getting rid of Eastern Europeans from their region, we shouldn't be expecting the militas/Palestinians/Lebanese to sacrifice themselves without achieving any tangible results - whilt their cousins sit back and live in filthy luxury.

 

[Hazard]

a good zionist is a dead zionist

I'm anything but a Zio, I'm just stating the bleeding obvious.

 

[hussain0216]

This numerical advantage that you mentioned hasn't yielded any results, for as far as I can remember and neither is it likely to going forward. Just a mere 20 millions are holding half a billion people by their balls in that region and beyond. Muslims have this mindset that numbers alone will win them over, sadly they're deluded. And hatred alone, or shouting slogans, won't win you anything either. It's time our people went back to the drawing board and revisit their strategies.

Look at Gaza, as if they weren't living through hell already, they're now 10 x times worse. Hezb, vastly downgraded and along with 1000s of kms land lost to Israel, and millions sent back to poverty.

Yes, Israel is hated all over the world, myself included but that doesn't materially change anything for them. They have some of the biggest players in their back pockets, and that isn't about to change anytime soon, sadly.

Until and unless all Arabs combined are ready to take on the challenge of getting rid of Eastern Europeans from their region, we shouldn't be expecting the militas/Palestinians/Lebanese to sacrifice themselves without achieving any tangible results - whilt their cousins sit back and live in filthy luxury.

Israel isn't alone, if it was, it would have been destroyed decades ago

Israel exists because it's a extension of the current superpower the USA, and the former superpowers the European colonial powers

THATS IT


But the same way the Crusaders were harassed into defeat and expulsion, the same will happen to the Jews,


For all the mighty words, it's the Palestinians who suffer on a daily basis, but their greatest weapon was and is the womb, and that Includes the Arab Muslims inside Israel

 

[Taimoor]

Read all this with below. Yet you won't hear a thing from fanboys. Bajwa trying to make deal with yanks over nukes and BMs, not a dicky bird! Pin drop silence from these very special breed of Pakistanis. Imagine all this was attributed to IK, these lot will be going apeshite and letting lose their "dayr gaz lambi zuban" trying to come across as some sort of allams and patriots.

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Drop Site News reported last week that the slowdown extends beyond Gulf obstruction. Pakistan’s Army Chief Field Marshal Asim Munir — now serving as Trump’s primary Iran war mediator — has deliberately allowed CPEC to stall as part of a broader realignment toward Washington. Of roughly 90 projects originally envisioned, only 38 have been completed, with no flagship project added to the pipeline since 2022. Iran’s corridor ambitions are caught between UAE economic interests protecting Dubai’s dominance and a Pakistani military leadership choosing Washington over Beijing.

 

[mythbuster]

What has the Iran war got to do with other Muslim Nations that don't recognize Israel? I don't get it.

Nothing to get there , it was just an AIPAC pleasing statement