Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Meengla said:
It is more like a 'strategic defeat' of Israel, as Trita Parsi said yesterday. Americans, unless the Petro Dollar is threatened, will be fine
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And all the US bases and key infrastructure that were destroyed in the ME region by Iran and the perception that US performed poorly against Iran militarily,combined with the damage to its reputation in the eyes of partners that rely on it for their security aren't consequential for US? Offcourse US has taken more than economic losses-its taken military,strategic, and political losses from this war with Iran.
Let's pray this lost war doesn't trigger a cascade of serious problems for US, including a national debt crisis.
 
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PK781 said:
Well the cat is out of the bag
Trump making Abraham Accords conditional with Iran deal. He wants muslim nations to first join and ensure israel's security....
Now lets see what strategy the muslim nations come up with. Otherwise we're back to square one.....and a real mess......
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All Pakistani media is strongly opposed to Pakistan joining the Abrahamic Accord and neither will Saudi Arabia. But the harami Netanyahu and his stooges in America will put every hurdles to peace every day.

Saw Chas Freeman today in Glenn Diesen. Freeman is my overall No. 1 favorite in entire world on geopolitics. Per him, Iran has acquired significant air defense system and that complicates another frontal attack on Iran.
 
BREAKING: U.S. forces have conducted "self defense strikes" in southern Iran, CENTCOM says.CENTCOM spox Capt Tim Hawkins told Fox News that: "U.S. forces conducted self-defense strikes in southern Iran today to protect our troops from threats posed by Iranian forces. Targets included missile launch sites and Iranian boats attempting to emplace mines. U.S. Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire."
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MORE details on US strikes vs Iranian targets today:2 Iranian boats were caught laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz, senior US official tells me. The US military eliminated both IRGC vessels and also struck at a SAM (surface to air missile) site in Bandar Abbas that was targeting US warplanes. “These were defensive strikes.” They do not indicate ceasefire is over, according to two well placed sources.
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MORE details on US strikes vs Iranian targets today:2 Iranian boats were caught laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz, senior US official tells me. The US military eliminated both IRGC vessels and also struck at a SAM (surface to air missile) site in Bandar Abbas that was targeting US warplanes. “These were defensive strikes.” They do not indicate ceasefire is over, according to two well placed sources.
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Orangeman will claim these are just love taps.
 
❗️NEW: Iran shot down one or more MQ-9 drones

What happened in chronological order:

• Yesterday, the US entered the Strait of Hormoz to attack IRGC speedboats & fisher boats, Iran’s air defenses countered the threat & shot down MQ-9 drones.

According to preliminary reports, 2 MQ-9 drones were shot down by the IRGC & one by the Army's air defense.

• The downing of these drones in less than 20 minutes caused the US to become confused and disorganized, and unable to locate the air defense site, they attacked several points on Qeshm and Jask islands.

• US attacked Iranian boats again

• The IRGC responded against US navy vessels tonight.

This also explains why Trump posted the AI image yesterday.


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SolarWarden said:
BREAKING: U.S. forces have conducted "self defense strikes" in southern Iran, CENTCOM says.CENTCOM spox Capt Tim Hawkins told Fox News that: "U.S. forces conducted self-defense strikes in southern Iran today to protect our troops from threats posed by Iranian forces. Targets included missile launch sites and Iranian boats attempting to emplace mines. U.S. Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire."
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Thanks to Israelis and Americans the term "self defense" has lost all meaning.
 
If these reports of IRGC boats and SAM sites being hit is true, from Irans perspective opening the straits and getting into a low intensity conflict is probably the least favoured option they want to go down.

Iran will need to calibrate its response so to deter or be ready for war, otherwise death by a thousand cuts may work out worse.
 
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