Pakistan Space Agency
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How many inches of land has been occupied by Afghanistan so far in the last 78 years? I know Pakistan is sitting on 32 sq km of Afghan territory since March 2026.
Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)
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Jango
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
So where are we at with this "operation" in light of the recent uptick in events?
Are we still going on with business as usual chest thumping? Are we gonna get serious or are we still sending Mohsin Naqvi's SHO?
Are we still going on with business as usual chest thumping? Are we gonna get serious or are we still sending Mohsin Naqvi's SHO?
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
dont you know , we have to save US from iran .
much more important stuff than internal security
SaltFlats
Registered Member
I know you’re joking, but I’ll still state the obvious for the boomers. The things the establishment is currently chasing, the Iran deal, net provider status, etc. I would gladly give all of that up in exchange for peace in KPK and Balochistan.
Actually I should add, some of what they're chasing might turn out to be mirages.
Hopefully Pessimistic
Registered Member
So what's the actual strategy in Balochistan long-term, or are they going to do some IBOs and wait till the next time there's a big attack to care again & repeat?
We need a real strategy and extreme measures. Not small tactical nonesense.
We need a real strategy and extreme measures. Not small tactical nonesense.
ACE OF HEARTS
Registered Member
The current leader ship, alternate leadership / opposition and current state of affairs of Afghanistan means that no improvement can be expected atleast for 2 - 3 decades or more.
So what kind of alliance / friendship is Pakistan expecting in the long run or is short-sighted wins the only goals / objective?
The bigger the land that is available to the enemies of Pakistan in Afghanistan, be it the rulers or their backers, the more chances that Pakistan is going to remain destabilised for the next 2-3 decades.
If you consider Afghanistan in terms of "Yugoslavia of the east" then, things become much more simpler to understand.
Afghanistan in its current form, is an eternal threat to the existence and territorial integrity of Pakistan.
Balkanization of Afghanistan Is the only way forward. Pakistan's boundaries should extend to the borders of Kabul, taking in / integrating provinces in the border regions into Pakistan permanently specially those that are economically connected to Pakistan.
The relevant ethnic groups should become separate countries in the north of Afghanistan bringing them under the sphere of influence of the central Asian countries.
The remaining Afghanistan proper would be located in the westwards and southwards, of the current form.
There is no other way.
During the roman empire in the current UK, the Picts in the northern part of the UK and the Germanic tribes / barbarians in modern day northern Europe, they fought the romans for 400 - 500 years, and then after, to integrate in the normal civilised world.
The current culture Afghanistan is no different and we can't wait 400 - 500 years for them to change their ways.
According to AI, the regions most easily that can be integrated economically into Pakistan include:
1. The Khyber Corridor (Nangarhar – Khyber Pakhtunkhwa)
Area: The Jalalabad plain (districts of Jalalabad, Behsud, Surkh Rod) plus the narrower stretch through Mohmand Dara and the Khyber Pass itself.
Topographic alignment: The Kabul River cuts through the Spin Ghar mountains, forming a natural lowland funnel straight into Peshawar valley. Jalalabad’s flat farmland sits only ~575 m above sea level, an ecological extension of the Peshawar basin.
2. The Kunar–Bajaur/Chitral Valleys (Kunar – Khyber Pakhtunkhwa)
Area: The Kunar River valley, including Asadabad, Marawara, Dangam, and the side valleys of Narang and Sarkani.
Topographic alignment: The Kunar River flows directly into Pakistan, joining the Kabul River near Jalalabad. Its upper catchment is physically part of the same Hindu Kush massif as Pakistan’s Bajaur, Dir, and Chitral. Mountain passes like the Nawa Pass and others connect Kunar’s side valleys with Pakistan’s tribal districts.
3. The Kurram Valley Corridor (Paktia/Khost – Kurram District)
Area: The upper Kurram River basin in Afghanistan’s Paktia (Gardez, Zazi Maidan) and Khost (Tere Zayi, Sabari), connected to Pakistan’s Kurram district via the Kharlachi border crossing and the Peiwar Pass.
Topographic alignment: The Kurram River originates in Paktia’s mountains and flows east directly into Pakistan, carving a broad, fertile valley that is an unbroken physical unit. The terrain slope and watershed make this a single, naturally integrated region.
4. . The Gomal–Tochi Corridor (Paktika/North Waziristan)
Area: The Gomal River basin in Paktika (Birmal, Sar Hawza) and Khost’s southern districts, draining toward Pakistan’s North Waziristan and Tank.
Topographic alignment: The Gomal and Tochi rivers flow from the Afghan side through low, rolling hills into the Indus plains. The Birmal valley is a flat, open plain straddling the border, topographically indistinguishable from adjacent Pakistani territory.
5. The Chaman–Spin Boldak Corridor (Kandahar – Balochistan)
Area: Spin Boldak district in Kandahar and the adjoining Chaman tehsil in Pakistan’s Balochistan.
Topographic alignment: An almost perfectly flat desert plain between the mountains of Balochistan and the Registan Desert. The border runs through featureless terrain—the same gravelly plain stretches unbroken from Quetta to Kandahar city.
6. The Registan–Chagai Desert Margin (Kandahar/Helmand – Balochistan)
Area: The southern, desert portion of Kandahar province (Registan district) and far southern Helmand, merging into Pakistan’s Chagai district.
Topographic alignment: Part of the same vast desert basin, with no topographic barrier. Seasonal watercourses from the Helmand basin (like the Dori River) cross into Pakistan intermittently.
So what kind of alliance / friendship is Pakistan expecting in the long run or is short-sighted wins the only goals / objective?
The bigger the land that is available to the enemies of Pakistan in Afghanistan, be it the rulers or their backers, the more chances that Pakistan is going to remain destabilised for the next 2-3 decades.
If you consider Afghanistan in terms of "Yugoslavia of the east" then, things become much more simpler to understand.
Afghanistan in its current form, is an eternal threat to the existence and territorial integrity of Pakistan.
Balkanization of Afghanistan Is the only way forward. Pakistan's boundaries should extend to the borders of Kabul, taking in / integrating provinces in the border regions into Pakistan permanently specially those that are economically connected to Pakistan.
The relevant ethnic groups should become separate countries in the north of Afghanistan bringing them under the sphere of influence of the central Asian countries.
The remaining Afghanistan proper would be located in the westwards and southwards, of the current form.
There is no other way.
During the roman empire in the current UK, the Picts in the northern part of the UK and the Germanic tribes / barbarians in modern day northern Europe, they fought the romans for 400 - 500 years, and then after, to integrate in the normal civilised world.
The current culture Afghanistan is no different and we can't wait 400 - 500 years for them to change their ways.
According to AI, the regions most easily that can be integrated economically into Pakistan include:
1. The Khyber Corridor (Nangarhar – Khyber Pakhtunkhwa)
Area: The Jalalabad plain (districts of Jalalabad, Behsud, Surkh Rod) plus the narrower stretch through Mohmand Dara and the Khyber Pass itself.
Topographic alignment: The Kabul River cuts through the Spin Ghar mountains, forming a natural lowland funnel straight into Peshawar valley. Jalalabad’s flat farmland sits only ~575 m above sea level, an ecological extension of the Peshawar basin.
2. The Kunar–Bajaur/Chitral Valleys (Kunar – Khyber Pakhtunkhwa)
Area: The Kunar River valley, including Asadabad, Marawara, Dangam, and the side valleys of Narang and Sarkani.
Topographic alignment: The Kunar River flows directly into Pakistan, joining the Kabul River near Jalalabad. Its upper catchment is physically part of the same Hindu Kush massif as Pakistan’s Bajaur, Dir, and Chitral. Mountain passes like the Nawa Pass and others connect Kunar’s side valleys with Pakistan’s tribal districts.
3. The Kurram Valley Corridor (Paktia/Khost – Kurram District)
Area: The upper Kurram River basin in Afghanistan’s Paktia (Gardez, Zazi Maidan) and Khost (Tere Zayi, Sabari), connected to Pakistan’s Kurram district via the Kharlachi border crossing and the Peiwar Pass.
Topographic alignment: The Kurram River originates in Paktia’s mountains and flows east directly into Pakistan, carving a broad, fertile valley that is an unbroken physical unit. The terrain slope and watershed make this a single, naturally integrated region.
4. . The Gomal–Tochi Corridor (Paktika/North Waziristan)
Area: The Gomal River basin in Paktika (Birmal, Sar Hawza) and Khost’s southern districts, draining toward Pakistan’s North Waziristan and Tank.
Topographic alignment: The Gomal and Tochi rivers flow from the Afghan side through low, rolling hills into the Indus plains. The Birmal valley is a flat, open plain straddling the border, topographically indistinguishable from adjacent Pakistani territory.
5. The Chaman–Spin Boldak Corridor (Kandahar – Balochistan)
Area: Spin Boldak district in Kandahar and the adjoining Chaman tehsil in Pakistan’s Balochistan.
Topographic alignment: An almost perfectly flat desert plain between the mountains of Balochistan and the Registan Desert. The border runs through featureless terrain—the same gravelly plain stretches unbroken from Quetta to Kandahar city.
6. The Registan–Chagai Desert Margin (Kandahar/Helmand – Balochistan)
Area: The southern, desert portion of Kandahar province (Registan district) and far southern Helmand, merging into Pakistan’s Chagai district.
Topographic alignment: Part of the same vast desert basin, with no topographic barrier. Seasonal watercourses from the Helmand basin (like the Dori River) cross into Pakistan intermittently.
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SaltFlats
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Watandar
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It was a hastily launched operation purely for the purpose of saving face. It never made sense to launch an anti-terrorism OP after handing over an entire country to the terrorist Taliban. Talk about trying to close barn doors after the horses have bolted.
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
funny thing it was working we had like a month of no attacks and then they decided to do the same ummah chummah and stopped
no we are back to square one and worse , now talis know you dont have the balls to do what should have been done a long time ago
SteppeWolff
Trusted Member
Indeed. Poorly manned borders, infiltrations are constant, chaman border opened 2 times in last few weeks and let in hordes of Afghans. But yes, drop some bombs on Afghanistan and call it a day.
Security appratus is acting like a headless chicken. No proper and long term policy, new chief comes and new policies comes.
Incompetence bordering on outright treason
Jango
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Or maybe they just regrouped and changed their strategy and the pause was the implementation phase?
Or you mean we not only stopped bombing for 3 weeks but also let all our internal guard down?
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
What strategy? There genuinely were zero attacks. Pretty stupid in an active skirmish, don't you think? The Taliban not using their best weapon against us. Remember, there was an IED attack on forces, and then we bombed them immediately that night, and the government echoed the thing we have been wanting ,after every attack, you launch strikes (but sadly they abandoned it pretty quickly).
And I agree this was a poorly planned op , just attacking depots without commanders or other more important infrastructure. But it accidentally worked. Attacks stopped. Taliban commanders were running away in helicopters.
My point is, even when this shitty op, which was just for face saving, actually gave some results, they abandoned it because they couldn't take the pressure from China/GCC and the alleged 400 dead charsees
Hopefully Pessimistic
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The operation was good, it was just stopped too soon, and wasn't intense enough at the borders. Anyone telling you operations against an extremist group to apply pressure is bad either belongs to a certain two-faced ethnic group that is also found in Afghanistan, or is a coward with low testosterone. Sustained pressure and aggressiveness has its own psychological effects.
The military crushed PTI claiming national security threats and accusing it of being pro-Taliban and now it is itself being extremely pathetic and passive against Afghanistan, Taliban and BLA.
Asim Munir needs fresh strategic minds for Balochistan, the Balochs there are high on ethno-tribal supremacy and get away with murder easily, only a full on invasion and ruthless IDP camps will put some sense into their head before moving onto socioeconomic methods and normalisation of politics.
The military crushed PTI claiming national security threats and accusing it of being pro-Taliban and now it is itself being extremely pathetic and passive against Afghanistan, Taliban and BLA.
Asim Munir needs fresh strategic minds for Balochistan, the Balochs there are high on ethno-tribal supremacy and get away with murder easily, only a full on invasion and ruthless IDP camps will put some sense into their head before moving onto socioeconomic methods and normalisation of politics.
Hopefully Pessimistic
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FACTS
RealNapster
Elite Member
It's not my problem if you don't understand the full context, won't read the whole conversation, and just click on reply.
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