Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

tsunset said:
All bullshit excuses to cover up TACO and the fact that Kurdish Gigachads didn't want to invade Iran and instead stole the weapons sent from the US/Israel for themselves
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what can we say or conclude about the kurds today? Their chances of building an independent Kurdish state in the middle East are dead- militarily they failed in Syria(civil war), Iraq (against central govt and Turkey) and against Iran (US Israeli aggression ).
They are incompetent, unstrategic, proxy-wannabees and they will never secure an independent state, which I guess settles the "Kurdish question ". They died for everybody else's interests but theirs. Smfh
 
BananaRepublic said:
If they claim it was “self destroyed” - that’s even worse.

Indicates helplessness.

Suicide is worse than being killed.
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that is just what they admitted. at the time, Babak shared a photo of another A-10 that was hit and badly damaged, but that was never announced.
 
Russia's Foreign Minister Lavrov on nuclear weapons:

Gaddafi gave up his nuclear program — and he was mocked and killed on live television to the delight of Hillary Clinton, who literally applauded in front of the screen.

North Korea simply concluded that without nuclear weapons, they would be wiped off the face of the earth.

They are acting on this choice — and no one touches them.

With Iran, all of this started because Iran had supposedly been promoting international terrorism for 47 years. It very quickly became clear that the reason was once again oil.

 
US stocks down badly today. Everyone was expecting rate cuts, but a stronger than expected jobs report today destroyed those hopes.

US inflation up to 3.8%.

SpaceX large IPO coming soon which will draw liquidity.

Marco Rubio telling congress the war with Iran is over.

Congress passing war resolution demanding Trump ends the war.

US inventories of high-end precision strike weapons and ballistic missile interceptors heavily depleted (depletion rates: 50-80% THAAD, 50% Patriot, 30-60% SM-3, 15-30% SM-6, 30% Tomahawk, 25% JASSM, 50-70% PrSM) and will take 5+ years to restore.

Israeli ballistic missile interceptors at critically low levels (100-200 Arrow/THAAD interceptors left) despite the US heavily depleting high end THAAD and SM-3/SM-6 interceptors to reduce the burden on Israeli air defences.

Large majority (70%+) of Iran's missile stockpile intact in missile cities with Iran already restoring access to 70-80% of the tunnel entrances and resuming drone production (and likely assembly of ballistic missiles albeit not full scale production).

Now we know why Iran's battle hardened leaders (Ali Abdollahi, Ahmad Vahidi, Majid Mousavi, Qalibaf, Eje'i, Arafi, Khamenei) are so confident in their position.
 
Persian Gulf said:
US stocks down badly today. Everyone was expecting rate cuts, but a stronger than expected jobs report today destroyed those hopes.

US inflation up to 3.8%.

SpaceX large IPO coming soon which will draw liquidity.

Marco Rubio telling congress the war with Iran is over.

Congress passing war resolution demanding Trump ends the war.

US inventories of high-end precision strike weapons and ballistic missile interceptors heavily depleted (depletion rates: 50-80% THAAD, 50% Patriot, 30-60% SM-3, 15-30% SM-6, 30% Tomahawk, 25% JASSM, 50-70% PrSM) and will take 5+ years to restore.

Israeli ballistic missile interceptors at critically low levels (100-200 Arrow/THAAD interceptors left) despite the US heavily depleting high end THAAD and SM-3/SM-6 interceptors to reduce the burden on Israeli air defences.

Large majority (70%+) of Iran's missile stockpile intact in missile cities with Iran already restoring access to 70-80% of the tunnel entrances and resuming drone production (and likely assembly of ballistic missiles albeit not full scale production).

Now we know why Iran's battle hardened leaders (Ali Abdollahi, Ahmad Vahidi, Majid Mousavi, Qalibaf, Eje'i, Arafi, Khamenei) are so confident in their position.
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Yes, the situation is not looking good for USA. Iran has gained the upper hand.
 


here we go again ...

the US is escorting oil tankers through the Strait of Hormoz

Iran fires drones at the tankers, the US intercepts them and bombs the launch point in south Iran (typically Qeshm Island or Bandar Abbas)

then Iran responds by firing larger missile and drone salvos at US bases in Kuwait/Bahrain to destroy USAF drone/aircraft hangars
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
I too have been expecting it for 47 years.
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Why did US expect this war for 47 years but then failed to prepare well for it? That's why Iran won- it was actually better prepared for this expected war with US. or maybe orange soda idiot made stupid decisions for US which is expected from a super idiot of his type who without white privilege would've been jailed for life a while ago in US.
 
925boy said:
Why did US expect this war for 47 years but then failed to prepare well for it? That's why Iran won- it was actually better prepared for this expected war with US. or maybe orange soda idiot made stupid decisions for US which is expected from a super idiot of his type who without white privilege would've been jailed for life a while ago in US.
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it's not over yet. I won't say Iran "won" until Iran locks in any perceived gains through tangible political / economic accomplishments.

But it is clear that the US is very reluctant to return to war and failed to achieve any of its objectives to date.
 
Persian Gulf said:
US stocks down badly today. Everyone was expecting rate cuts, but a stronger than expected jobs report today destroyed those hopes.

US inflation up to 3.8%.
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Interestingly, I commented on this earlier this morning when the usual posts of great cheer went up. Copying in its entirety:

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And concluded with it putting a little more perspective on things.
 
Persian Gulf said:
it's not over yet. I won't say Iran "won" until Iran locks in any perceived gains through tangible political / economic accomplishments.

But it is clear that the US is very reluctant to return to war and failed to achieve any of its objectives to date.
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You know there is some here who will dispute that.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Interestingly, I commented on this earlier this morning when the usual posts of great cheer went up. Copying in its entirety:

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And concluded with it putting a little more perspective on things.
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I assume this was baked into the expectations for this month, which were exceeded by a significant degree, triggering the significant sell offs (and Trump's related confusion on Truth Social).

The overarching point is that the US does not seem to be in a good position to return to war, and it is also not clear what marginal gains resuming the war would achieve, at the cost of further depleting the US stockpile of high end offensive and defensive munitions.
 
Persian Gulf said:
I assume this was baked into the expectations for this month, which were exceeded by a significant degree, triggering the significant sell offs (and Trump's related confusion on Truth Social).

The overarching point is that the US does not seem to be in a good position to return to war, and it is also not clear what marginal gains resuming the war would achieve, at the cost of further depleting the US stockpile of high end offensive and defensive munitions.
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Not sure though I expect many of the professionals delved into some of the same, or better, sources that I do and came to the same conclusions. FWIW, the biggest hit was in the tech sector.

Alternatively, it is the weekend. The traders were looking for some quick profits in order to have cash for the weekend.

Yet, when I look at the beige book and knowing that fuel stocks, especially gasoline, have been in a steady decline since Nov., that is concerning.
 
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