Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Oscar]

Speaking of which...

Behold...

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So basically..., there is NO info/news regarding this from US (Raytheon or Pentagon) or Pakistan (PAF), but this great Research Wing seems to have all the info. MashahAllah.

Oh & lets not forget the comments of the idiots that follow. Coincidently..., none of them questioned the source, but..., if there is any bad news regarding their own Military they start challenging the author & claiming the article was written by ChatGPT.

I'm certain that we have some of those retards from the comment section here - 100%. After all that 1-liner gandu ( @Hari Sud ) opened an account here (too).

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@Yasser76 @hasssanali8998 @AeronautIR @Areesh @Master Chief @I*R*A

No matter how much you curse them - their hatred and insecurity will triumph over any remnants of values their families did or did not try to inculcate in them.

I wouldn’t even piss in their direction. There are more and better Indians to engage with, who represent the common hope for a path forward - I take them as Indians - and these similar to how I see TTP and similar filth in Pakistanis - they are from Pakistan unfortunately and collectively a creation but they do not represent the common Pakistani just as Arse Sud doesn’t represent common Indians.

 

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- and these similar to how I see TTP and similar filth in Pakistanis - they are from Pakistan unfortunately and collectively a creation but they do not represent the common Pakistani just as Arse Sud doesn’t represent common Indians.

Agreed %. We have a lot of people in Pakistan chasing TTP's... But..., Indians are just on another level altogther. They're just on another stratosphere. There just isn't any comparison between the two.

 

[Oscar]

Agreed %. We have a lot of people in Pakistan chasing TTP's... But..., Indians are just on another level altogther. They're just on another stratosphere. There just isn't any comparison between the two.

Cultural aspects - how media shapes you versus exposure etc.
They are more inclined for mobthink than Pakistanis surprisingly but also tend to rationalize hatred easier due to the overall education and professional mindset.

 

[Master Chief]

Cultural aspects - how media shapes you versus exposure etc.
They are more inclined for mobthink than Pakistanis surprisingly but also tend to rationalize hatred easier due to the overall education and professional mindset.

M S Golwalkar's works, We, Our Nationhood Defined and Collection Of Thoughts are sufficient to clarify that the mob behaviour emanating from our east is anything but surprising.

They do nowadays happen to repeatedly elect these genocidal nutcases.

Indeed, just as Jinnah figured out what was going on long before 1947, thanks in no small part to Golwalkar's uncontrollable rantings, a certain Winston Churchill also knew the reality of a Hindu led subcontinent AND the fact that Gandhi/Nehru were a simple and ineffective mask behind which Golwalkar would menacingly lurk:

"Gandhi stands for the removal of the British from India and for Hindu domination of India. To abandon India to the rule of the Hindu would be cruel and wrong."

 

[Irfan Baloch]

If it will be a Lucknovi Brahmos it will waste soo much time in being polite and wanting creature comforts that it would never leave the TEL.

for some reason I cant push that thought of truck(s) parked suspiciously close to Pakistani airfields and air defence sites that might spawn the drones like Ukraine did on the Russian stretegic bombers. (hold that thought)

on the eve of hostilities once the Indians once again will take the advantage of the initiative ...
my guess is that PAF will have to go on offensive and risk a very comlex and multi layered Indian airdefence to take out the Indian airforce bases to prevent further airbourne (Brhamos) missiles strikes

or take out known launch sites of Brahmos.
I am not aware of the range, precision and effectiveness of its newly raised batteries from the rocket force to reach out those sites / airfields.

Indians on the other hand will put all their bets on their Brahmos (and like) to disable all PAF airfields to prevent the 2025 repeat and for that they will go for unconventional warfare that they have successfully employed on multiple times against PN and PAF with devestating effects taking out Pakistani stretegic Naval and airforce assets.

Indians are good learners and everytime (2019 /2025)they have adapted and changed their methods. clearly Brhamos strikes have given enough meat to the bone for Indians to claim some victories.

Interesting times ahead.
although subject is EW but something interesting from my favourite PAF pilot yotuber SL Ali Hamza . with a short reference to Brahmos threat.

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[PK781]

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How the **** is that allowed to happen on a Pakistani forum??
Need to get rid of all indian mods. Period.
Its Ridiculous.

 

[PK781]

for some reason I cant push that thought of truck(s) parked suspiciously close to Pakistani airfields and air defence sites that might spawn the drones like Ukraine did on the Russian stretegic bombers. (hold that thought)

on the eve of hostilities once the Indians once again will take the advantage of the initiative ...
my guess is that PAF will have to go on offensive and risk a very comlex and multi layered Indian airdefence to take out the Indian airforce bases to prevent further airbourne (Brhamos) missiles strikes

or take out known launch sites of Brahmos.
I am not aware of the range, precision and effectiveness of its newly raised batteries from the rocket force to reach out those sites / airfields.

Indians on the other hand will put all their bets on their Brahmos (and like) to disable all PAF airfields to prevent the 2025 repeat and for that they will go for unconventional warfare that they have successfully employed on multiple times against PN and PAF with devestating effects taking out Pakistani stretegic Naval and airforce assets.

Indians are good learners and everytime (2019 /2025)they have adapted and changed their methods. clearly Brhamos strikes have given enough meat to the bone for Indians to claim some victories.

Interesting times ahead.
although subject is EW but something interesting from my favoruie PAF pilot yotuber SL Ali Hamza . with a short reference to Brahmos threat.

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exactly why many of us feel that the so-called RESTRAINT shown was a fatal mistake........the enemy would NEVER show Restraints. Our stupid leadership will learn harsh and fatal lessons

 

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for some reason I cant push that thought of truck(s) parked suspiciously close to Pakistani airfields and air defence sites that might spawn the drones like Ukraine did on the Russian stretegic bombers. (hold that thought)

on the eve of hostilities once the Indians once again will take the advantage of the initiative ...
my guess is that PAF will have to go on offensive and risk a very comlex and multi layered Indian airdefence to take out the Indian airforce bases to prevent further airbourne (Brhamos) missiles strikes

or take out known launch sites of Brahmos.
I am not aware of the range, precision and effectiveness of its newly raised batteries from the rocket force to reach out those sites / airfields.

Indians on the other hand will put all their bets on their Brahmos (and like) to disable all PAF airfields to prevent the 2025 repeat and for that they will go for unconventional warfare that they have successfully employed on multiple times against PN and PAF with devestating effects taking out Pakistani stretegic Naval and airforce assets.

Indians are good learners and everytime (2019 /2025)they have adapted and changed their methods. clearly Brhamos strikes have given enough meat to the bone for Indians to claim some victories.

Interesting times ahead.
although subject is EW but something interesting from my favoruie PAF pilot yotuber SL Ali Hamza . with a short reference to Brahmos threat.

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It kind of all goes back to 9 March, 2022 when India "accidently" launched a BrahMos at Pakistan.

India accidentally fires missile into Pakistan

That...right there might have been the smartest/clever stunt they had pulled.

If range was not the issue, they certainly managed to get a pretty good idea about our Radars and Air Defences. I have no doubt that our Military knew what was going on, but didn't really do much to cover the holes in a period of 4 Years.

Oh and without a doubt that now, not only do they have pretty good idea about the BrahMos range, its potential accuracy and destruction - you can be rest assure that the next round will have more of those heading in pretty much the same direction.

It goes back to what you said about PAF having to go on the Offensive next time around...

 

[maverick]

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hahaha, tejas 136… lol

 

[AeronautIR]

for some reason I cant push that thought of truck(s) parked suspiciously close to Pakistani airfields and air defence sites that might spawn the drones like Ukraine did on the Russian stretegic bombers. (hold that thought)

on the eve of hostilities once the Indians once again will take the advantage of the initiative ...
my guess is that PAF will have to go on offensive and risk a very comlex and multi layered Indian airdefence to take out the Indian airforce bases to prevent further airbourne (Brhamos) missiles strikes

or take out known launch sites of Brahmos.
I am not aware of the range, precision and effectiveness of its newly raised batteries from the rocket force to reach out those sites / airfields.

Indians on the other hand will put all their bets on their Brahmos (and like) to disable all PAF airfields to prevent the 2025 repeat and for that they will go for unconventional warfare that they have successfully employed on multiple times against PN and PAF with devestating effects taking out Pakistani stretegic Naval and airforce assets.

Indians are good learners and everytime (2019 /2025)they have adapted and changed their methods. clearly Brhamos strikes have given enough meat to the bone for Indians to claim some victories.

Interesting times ahead.
although subject is EW but something interesting from my favoruie PAF pilot yotuber SL Ali Hamza . with a short reference to Brahmos threat.

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Thank you for your kind words mate. The Brahmos threat has been discussed at large since 10th May 2025. I gave an unpopular opinion that Brahmos is a threat but SOWs alone can't take all PAF bases out of action. The less number of launching aircraft and Pakistan's increasing interception capabilities are few factors. Also, I can't find my notes about ballistics but I am sure Air-Launched Brahmos is more accurate than surface launched. @Oscar

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Thank you for your kind words mate. The Brahmos threat has been discussed at large since 10th May 2025. I gave an unpopular opinion that Brahmos is a threat but SOWs alone can't take all PAF bases out of action. The less number of launching aircraft and Pakistan's increasing interception capabilities are few factors. Also, I can't find my notes about ballistics but I am sure Air-Launched Brahmos is more accurate than surface launched. @Oscar

yes sir,

Brahmos is discussed since their use seems to give some saving grace to Indians who were forced to ground their air force in the middle of conflict for 2 days.

definitely new tactics and doctrines are being written and plans being made before the next showdown.

In my view, since 2019, the Indians didn't change their tactics other than coming with a huge force since they were now targeting Pakistan proper as well. they were hoping to overwhelm the Pakistan air defenses and launch their SOW's deep within their sides of border and return while their escort elements were ready to intercept any PAF responses but sadly for them, PDF (not PAF) cheated and gave wrong information on Wikipedia on the P-15 effective range and capabilities and their plans fell short, resulting in X number of IAF planes getting shot down.

either its a bruised pride that they are not admitting that they have received a historic dressing down by PAF or they are still willing to gamble on another round due to our self imposed restraint in escalation ladder which PAF(+ rest of military leaderships) of 2019 and 2025 maintained despite having the opportunity to shoot down much more planes on both occasions and I understand and agree with that restraint because being a smaller side with limited war stamina, our leadership has to make a call that the response is sufficient to shock the Indians but not pass some threshold which they have more capacity to absorb than we can. I do know that if Indians get the similar opportunity then they will never hold back because they believe they can absorb the reaction of PAF.

having dealt with them along the LoC I can tell you that they use every opportunity and dirty trick in the book to hurt you back. shooting at passenger vans, firing tracers on ripe fields and opening fire (at least I know one in early 2000s) just before flag staff meeting.

I expect them attempting to target our commercial plane as well claiming it was carrying Hafiz Saeed etc. I pray that all our combat, transport, military and civilian planes remain safe from their sneak attacks like one on the PN Orion plane, 6 months after Kargil war after they had lost 2 jets.