Shags101
Trusted Member
Well to be fair he is a joke
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Israeli platforms:
>Beirut must burn tonight, otherwise we are in trouble.
>A sovereign state cannot accept a situation where it is attacked with 4 barrages and does not respond.
>Another routine day in israel: Two more soldiers buried, a deadly attack in the heart of the country, Hezbollah firing towards the settlements, and extensive missile fire from Iran.
>The people of Israel are waiting for a tweet from Trump to get an update - as usual.
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they don't seem very happy.
>Beirut must burn tonight, otherwise we are in trouble.
>A sovereign state cannot accept a situation where it is attacked with 4 barrages and does not respond.
>Another routine day in israel: Two more soldiers buried, a deadly attack in the heart of the country, Hezbollah firing towards the settlements, and extensive missile fire from Iran.
>The people of Israel are waiting for a tweet from Trump to get an update - as usual.
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they don't seem very happy.
Meengla
Elite Member
I don't think, contrary to many Pakistanis say here, Pakistan has as much of impact to reverse a 150 year old Zionist project, carefully crafted to take over a Superpower with much money behind that project. When the Indian PM Modi went to Israel just before this war started, he was betting on the continued rise of Israel in the upcoming war. Only time will tell if Modi was wrong.
There is no question about it: Trump, like all the American presidents before him, is fed up with Netanyahu.
Israel is and should be very worried about Pakistan and Turkey. Did you see a recent poll: 97% of Turks and 95% of Pakistanis are against Israel--the two countries who scored the highest against Israel. And those polls deny pragmatism about policies over Israel.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Israeli analyst on the strategic failure of Israel's war against Iran:
The events of the past hour underscore just how resounding a strategic failure the latest campaign against Iran has been. Israel now faces a tough dilemma: to respond and risk a frontal clash with the President of the United States, or to refrain from responding and allow Iran to entrench a new equation that will significantly curtail Israel's freedom of action against Hezbollah in the future.
More importantly, the recent developments illustrate that despite two military campaigns against Tehran, Iran is far from deterred. On the contrary. The Iranian leadership is projecting high confidence in its capabilities, and is particularly convinced that there is currently no credible threat—neither from Israel nor from the United States—that could compel it to make a substantive change in its policy.
Meanwhile, President Trump faces a particularly problematic strategic reality. The options available to him are not good, and he appears to be someone who prefers to reach an agreement with Iran at almost any cost rather than allowing a slide into a broader regional confrontation.
In the end, this is the price of a campaign that yielded impressive tactical achievements but failed to attain its central strategic goal: the toppling of the regime. Instead, Israel finds itself with less freedom of action, Iran with greater self-confidence, and the United States with a growing desire to end the crisis through a political settlement.
The events of the past hour underscore just how resounding a strategic failure the latest campaign against Iran has been. Israel now faces a tough dilemma: to respond and risk a frontal clash with the President of the United States, or to refrain from responding and allow Iran to entrench a new equation that will significantly curtail Israel's freedom of action against Hezbollah in the future.
More importantly, the recent developments illustrate that despite two military campaigns against Tehran, Iran is far from deterred. On the contrary. The Iranian leadership is projecting high confidence in its capabilities, and is particularly convinced that there is currently no credible threat—neither from Israel nor from the United States—that could compel it to make a substantive change in its policy.
Meanwhile, President Trump faces a particularly problematic strategic reality. The options available to him are not good, and he appears to be someone who prefers to reach an agreement with Iran at almost any cost rather than allowing a slide into a broader regional confrontation.
In the end, this is the price of a campaign that yielded impressive tactical achievements but failed to attain its central strategic goal: the toppling of the regime. Instead, Israel finds itself with less freedom of action, Iran with greater self-confidence, and the United States with a growing desire to end the crisis through a political settlement.
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ShapurII
Trusted Member
It doesn't matter because the ordinary citizens of these countries do not make the calls. Over 90% of Arabs hate Israel with a passion but Israel isn't worried about them either.
Any country which is under the influence of the US is unlikely to make any sort of actual move against Israel. The best I would expect from such countries is lip service and that's about it.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
yes, that is certainly a long shot. but Trump has publicly said he will ask Bibi not to respond, which forces Bibi to choose whether to take the massive domestic hit or publicly embarrass Trump. Trump won't abandon Bibi in any case, but he also wouldn't like being publicly embarrassed either.
not to say that Trump will not support Israeli military action against Iran. but he will want to support it on his terms. and it seems that does not include action taken now.
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
Even the deep state cannot ignore mass opposition to Israel.
If the deep state was in control - US would have invaded Iran by now.
Once US decided against ground invasion - the war was lost.
Ground invasion was the only chance of victory.
But US voters did not want victory at a heavy price because they don’t believe in this war.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
2 million views on this tweet from Araghchi
Meengla
Elite Member
I believe and I say this with conviction: Both Turkey and Pakistan are biding their time. Their very weak economies are the obstacles. Both are large countries in terms of populations and to little resources to support that population but are also corrupt economies.
I don't think Israel will dare launch a single missile on Saudi Arabia given the Pakistani jets and the Pakistani/Chinese satellites in/over Saudi Arabia. Israelis didn't even name 'Pakistan' during the May 2025 conflict between Pakistan and India. Israelis know better.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
But Trump is used to being the laughing stock of the world for a while now. He's been caught lying too many times in the last year alone, which has made him lose his credibility completely.
He'll just try to twist his words in some way by saying that I said that but it was before Iran did X which forced us to do Y because nobody wants Iran to have nuclear weapons and then his MAGA sheep will all believe him. At the end, I think Netanyahu can force Trump to follow him into whatever stupid mess he wants to create next.
Trump wasn't very fond of Netanyahu before he became the POTUS for the second term, but as soon as he did, he's tried to save Bibi's ass multiple times. Something greater than the POTUS seems to be calling the shots.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Khamenei-isation of Bibi
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
large crowd of Iranians in central Tehran call for IRGC to bomb Tel Aviv, lol
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
Pakistani and Turkish military hierarchy are in the pay of the CIA.
IRGC is not.
That’s why only Iran is a threat to Israeli hegemony.
Everyone else will jump up and down like an orangutan but not actually do anything against Israel.
unconventional
Registered Member
From the Iranian perspective, they certainly have some wild cards they haven’t even played yet:
a) Attack desalination plants in the GCC, as well restarting attacks against the GCC key civilian infrastructure
b) Use Houthis to close Bab-al-Mandab
c) Further deplete the Israel defence stockpile to critically low levels through cheap missiles (which they have a lot of)
d) there could be potentially a surprise of further uranium enrichment to weapons grade
e) getting Houthis, Iraqi PLF directly attacking Israel/US bases again
There might be others I have missed as well.
This is on top of closing the Straits of Hormuz, as well as having retained 75-80% of their missiles and missile capability in their missile cities, still holding onto their 60% enriched uranium.
Iran is in a favorable position in this conflict right now, and has surely established deterrence against Israel.
a) Attack desalination plants in the GCC, as well restarting attacks against the GCC key civilian infrastructure
b) Use Houthis to close Bab-al-Mandab
c) Further deplete the Israel defence stockpile to critically low levels through cheap missiles (which they have a lot of)
d) there could be potentially a surprise of further uranium enrichment to weapons grade
e) getting Houthis, Iraqi PLF directly attacking Israel/US bases again
There might be others I have missed as well.
This is on top of closing the Straits of Hormuz, as well as having retained 75-80% of their missiles and missile capability in their missile cities, still holding onto their 60% enriched uranium.
Iran is in a favorable position in this conflict right now, and has surely established deterrence against Israel.
