Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds



Iran used a new variant of the Kheibar Shekan missile for the first time. it is equipped with an optical seeker for greater accuracy, similar to the Qasem Basir.

the trade off is lower terminal velocity, meaning it is easier to intercept in the final stage.
 
Coping at its very best!!!
every domestic rival is putting huge pressure on Bibi

this is a very embarrassing moment for him if he doesn't respond to Iran

but if he does respond he risks alienating Trump

either way, Iran has put Israel in a tricky situation and is better prepared than Israel for the next steps since these are on Iran's terms for once
 
My 'position' on Israel may not please many here. I don't want mass death and destruction on anyone. I wish they correct the course and do so before too long for their own good. And yet it is mindboggling that they don't see they are in the path of a freight train approaching them. Chas Freeman, who I admire the most, often says that Israel is on a self destructive path and he says this with a certainty which he usually avoids.

Israel now has the Turkish troops via Syria on its border. Israel has the Pakistani troops, via Saudi Arabia, on its border. And Israel has the potent Iranian missiles ready to strike Israel within minutes. WTF are the Israelis thinking against these three great powers??!! Still living in the glory of the 1967 war, you idiots?!!
Well, I'm sure what I will say will not be very pleasant either, but I don't think Israel is worried about Turkey or Pakistan as both countries are under the influence of the United States.

As for Iran, Israel sees Iran as a nearly failed state that has become too weakened in the last 20 years to put up a serious fight. It is the main reason for their adventurism in the last 3 years. And Iran's weak responses during TP1 to TP3 only further strengthened that view in Tel Aviv.

Moves like this can lead to recalculations in Israel. Once Israel realizes that their adventurist mentality does not apply to Iran and Iran will fight back and exert a heavy price, Israel will be forced to step back and deterrence will be reestablished.

As for why Israel cannot see the incoming doom for their state, it's because they still feel in control. They have the unconditional backing of the US and European countries and they are leading in science and technology, particularly in microprocessors and most recently AI. They are not going to change course as long as they feel they're winning it.
 
but if he does respond he risks alienating Trump
I doubt Trump would abandon Bibi though.
Trump is already in deep shit because of high gas prices and he is even more at the mercy of the Zionist lobby in the US. Trump needs Bibi more than ever for November.
 
every domestic rival is putting huge pressure on Bibi

this is a very embarrassing moment for him if he doesn't respond to Iran

but if he does respond he risks alienating Trump

either way, Iran has put Israel in a tricky situation and is better prepared than Israel for the next steps since these are on Iran's terms for once
Exactly, Either Natanyahu will back down right now after failing in his bluff or he will do something so stupid that will burn the whole region down and global economy with it.
If he backs down and remains silent and stops attacking lebanon then we are going to have a deal more in to favour for Iran.
 
"Netanyahu will have no choice but to accept an Iran deal. I call the shots. I call all the shots. Bibi does not." - President Trump

His political career is in risk and may end up jail if continues this illegal war. He got no choice but withdraw his supports for Amalek entity.
 
majority of air defence interceptions were by the US, not Israel

US sent 2/7 of its THAAD batteries to Israel as well as several destroyers to protect Israel

and you joke about Israel doing anything "without US backing"
Well to be fair he is a joke
 
Israeli platforms:

>Beirut must burn tonight, otherwise we are in trouble.

>A sovereign state cannot accept a situation where it is attacked with 4 barrages and does not respond.

>Another routine day in israel: Two more soldiers buried, a deadly attack in the heart of the country, Hezbollah firing towards the settlements, and extensive missile fire from Iran.

>The people of Israel are waiting for a tweet from Trump to get an update - as usual.

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they don't seem very happy.
 
The fact that the attack happened right after MN went with a message from FM, doesnt look good for Pakistan
I don't think, contrary to many Pakistanis say here, Pakistan has as much of impact to reverse a 150 year old Zionist project, carefully crafted to take over a Superpower with much money behind that project. When the Indian PM Modi went to Israel just before this war started, he was betting on the continued rise of Israel in the upcoming war. Only time will tell if Modi was wrong.

"Netanyahu will have no choice but to accept an Iran deal. I call the shots. I call all the shots. Bibi does not." - President Trump

There is no question about it: Trump, like all the American presidents before him, is fed up with Netanyahu.

Well, I'm sure what I will say will not be very pleasant either, but I don't think Israel is worried about Turkey or Pakistan as both countries are under the influence of the United States.

Israel is and should be very worried about Pakistan and Turkey. Did you see a recent poll: 97% of Turks and 95% of Pakistanis are against Israel--the two countries who scored the highest against Israel. And those polls deny pragmatism about policies over Israel.
 
Israeli analyst on the strategic failure of Israel's war against Iran:

The events of the past hour underscore just how resounding a strategic failure the latest campaign against Iran has been. Israel now faces a tough dilemma: to respond and risk a frontal clash with the President of the United States, or to refrain from responding and allow Iran to entrench a new equation that will significantly curtail Israel's freedom of action against Hezbollah in the future.

More importantly, the recent developments illustrate that despite two military campaigns against Tehran, Iran is far from deterred. On the contrary. The Iranian leadership is projecting high confidence in its capabilities, and is particularly convinced that there is currently no credible threat—neither from Israel nor from the United States—that could compel it to make a substantive change in its policy.

Meanwhile, President Trump faces a particularly problematic strategic reality. The options available to him are not good, and he appears to be someone who prefers to reach an agreement with Iran at almost any cost rather than allowing a slide into a broader regional confrontation.

In the end, this is the price of a campaign that yielded impressive tactical achievements but failed to attain its central strategic goal: the toppling of the regime. Instead, Israel finds itself with less freedom of action, Iran with greater self-confidence, and the United States with a growing desire to end the crisis through a political settlement.
 

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