Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Iran should make the White House implode from the inside

The roots of all problems of Iran comes from there

Let’s try to achieve a missile impact in tel Aviv before we think about Washington

 

[maverick]

Interestingly this round with Israel acting alone may be very hard for them. Not a single USAF tanker in the air. Right now Israel only has a handful of old 707S and C-130s. Unsure how safe they would be over Iraq but anyway, that fleet would struggle so maybe they will just lob missiles from long range. That will only give them limited strike options compared to flying F-35s over Iran

Israel cannot carry out attacks without US cover, US assets are in Israel to provide support.

 

[Yasser76]

Well the Iraqi air force is non existent it seems, their air space doesn't belong to them, the US and Israel has free reign. Syria lost its air space long ago.

Even with that though, can the Israelis alone get enough tankers in the air?

 

[Bahrami]

Taking bets!

= US gets involved till Wednesday

= US gets involved after Wednesday

= No US involvement at all

 

[Yasser76]

Israel cannot carry out attacks without US cover, US assets are in Israel to provide support.

Not sure, seems like this attack may not have had US backing, for sure the Americans would not have physically stopped the Israelis, but looks like no logistics support. Mind you we can only guess I suppose, last time flightradar was full of US tankers in the region, no nothing is in the air

 

[RescueRanger]

US Dept. of War delegation onboard flight callsign SPAR (Special Priority Air Resource) now headed to CENTCOM AOR.

Also notable are the following:

RCH884 USAF - Troop Transport out of Germany
WAKE22 - Carrying USMC Fighter Squadron Personnel
RCH1809 - USAF Air Mobility Command C5M Super Galaxy

 

[Corax]

Even with that though, can the Israelis alone get enough tankers in the air?

Yeah, they will be constrained without US tanker support, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the US is covertly supporting them with assets located in their bases in Iraq or Kuwait.

 

[RescueRanger]

This aircraft is worth monitoring:

Carrying elite pilots from the Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 211 (VMFA -211)

 

[maverick]

Not sure, seems like this attack may not have had US backing, for sure the Americans would not have physically stopped the Israelis, but looks like no logistics support. Mind you we can only guess I suppose, last time flightradar was full of US tankers in the region, no nothing is in the air

Israel does not execute without planning with USA..
rest is lip service

 

[Yasser76]

Yeah, they will be constrained without US tanker support, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if the US is covertly supporting them with assets located in their bases in Iraq or Kuwait.

Not sure this time, they have humiliated Trump by totally ignoring him. He will be seething at this. Unsure why he would green light his own humiliation. My guess is we actually may well see a US-Israel rupture here potentially. 3D Chess by Iran. If they make this out to be Israel v Iran as the rest of the world suffers economically, you will see massive US domestic pressure on Trump, already many Republicans are pushing back hard on support for Israel

 

[Ali_Baba]

Not sure, seems like this attack may not have had US backing, for sure the Americans would not have physically stopped the Israelis, but looks like no logistics support. Mind you we can only guess I suppose, last time flightradar was full of US tankers in the region, no nothing is in the air

The UK and Germany both provided their tankers to Israel, to attack Iran in the 12 day war. We only found out about them when some of the tankers forgot to turn off their transponders over Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Iraq. So, there may be more support being provided to Israel and this time, the countries have become better to hide their direct involvement.

 

[Yasser76]

Israel does not execute without planning with USA..
rest is lip service

Usually I would agree, this time I am not so sure

 

[RescueRanger]

ARTEMIS II -

Likely providing ISTAR for US NAVY CVN.

 

[Yasser76]

The UK and Germany both provided their tankers to Israel, to attack Iran in the 12 day war. We only found out about them when some of the tankers forgot to turn off their transponders over Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Iraq. So, there may be more support being provided to Israel and this time, the countries have become better to hide their direct involvement.

I thought those tankers were to support RAF planes defending Israel against drones, not taking part in actual strikes

 

[Ali_Baba]

I thought those tankers were to support RAF planes defending Israel against drones, not taking part in actual strikes

Maybe - but I suspect not(imho). I do think the UK was involved in the Genocide in Gaza by providing RAF intelligence planes to overfly, monitor and providing data to the IDF from those planes over Gaza.

The UK Government did say "oh, it was to try and find the hostages only", but there is a fine line between that rationale, and providing intelligence on the local resistance fighters, their operations and bases to the IDF etc.