Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

The threats that the US is making against Iran are of existential nature, justifying a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US Navy in my opinion.

Oh okay, then Iran should go ahead and do what you suggest. Will that really help it survive better?
 
BTW, the remark of 'Iran is Pakistan's strategic depth and Pakistan is Iran's strategic depth' was said by an Iranian journalist on a Pakistani channel once this war began. The journalist also said India will see the consequences of its historic betrayal of Iran once this war settle down and Iran will much more align with Pakistan and China [that was the essence of that journalist's message].
Bro dollars speak louder than anything including betrayal.When india will show dollars to war exhausted Iranian government, everything will be forgotten. So hold your horses.
 
Oh okay, then Iran should go ahead and do what you suggest. Will that really help it survive better?
Most likely it will result in a fair settlement of the issue and lead to long-lasting peace.

Not a stupid ceasefire for rearming and regrouping, but a final settlement and a treaty that ends half a century of hostilities.
 
I bet orange buffoon didnt even know there was a place called kharg island until some zionist shill in white house planted this idea in his pea sized brain.

It was... in simple theft and nothing else... his realtor negotiators would have entertained some revenue deal on either Iranian oil... a combined toll booth or similar architecture that the con artist... swindler could get as part of grift.


Never lose sight of the obvious con...there are whole sorts in the box there who've been offered part of the deal... baby shah is definitely on board... while on going US operations pay for a corrupt private venture. The sheikhdoms already knew what was coming in the form of trumph crime syndicate... they started lavishing him with private gifts... exclusive deals... even his crypto funded.
Bottom line is the cost and time it takes for any such venture. Cost however is covered by international buyer of treasuries and ultimately US tax payer... the grift is held privately... as always.
 
Most likely it will result in a fair settlement of the issue and lead to long-lasting peace.

Not a stupid ceasefire for rearming and regrouping, but a final settlement and a treaty that ends half a century of hostilities.

Well, the war cannot last forever, so there will be peace, the sooner the better. On what terms it happens remains to be seen. Unlike you, I cannot predict with such certainty as you can. Apologies.
 
Well, the war cannot last forever, so there will be peace, the sooner the better. On what terms it happens remains to be seen. Unlike you, I cannot predict with such certainty as you can. Apologies.
I think the terms proposed by Trump seem to be quite clear, no?
He has already outlined his plans for this war quite clearly. His existential threats against the nation of Iran are quite clear too.

I am not really extrapolating anything here. I am simply referring to the statements of a demented fool in the White House, making the calls for the US Army at the moment.
 
I think the terms proposed by Trump seem to be quite clear, no?
He has already outlined his plans for this war quite clearly. His existential threats against the nation of Iran are quite clear too.

I am not really extrapolating anything here. I am simply referring to the statements of a demented fool in the White House, making the calls for the US Army at the moment.

And you think nuking a US carrier will help change his mind?

He changes stories more often than he changes his diapers anyway, so who knows what he really will do here?
 
IRI’s timidity quickly led to threats of an all-out attack and a ground invasion. Unless the IRGC finally learns its lesson, ignores the government, and takes action to defend the country, Iran as a nation will truly cease to exist.

@Persian Gulf please make him the supreme commander of IRGC. He will show us how it's get done.
 
And you think nuking a US carrier will help change his mind?

He changes stories more often than he changes his diapers anyway, so who knows what he really will do here?
Of course it will.

The US will face two options in such a hypothetical scenario:
Option 1: You can get a deal that greatly benefits the US by giving the US companies
hundreds of billions of dollars and reach a lasting peace with one of your adversaries.
Option 2: Continue the war with Iran and lose the rest of your navy, lose all of your military bases around Iran because the stakes will be too high for Iran's neighboring countries, thousands of soldiers, billions of dollars and even trillions of dollars after the US market crashes.

Even if Trump doesn't want to take the deal, the deep state will force him to do so or remove him from power one way or another. I believe all states, no matter who is at the top of command chain, act as rational agents in game theory.

So far, the US has been imposing heavy costs on Iran with little damage in return. The current situation encourages the US to continue the war. Everything is completely different in that hypothetical scenario.
 

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